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| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"I wonder what that is in German?'"
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| It is worrying that Dickie hasn't said either way what is happening.
No confirmation that it will remain at 14, suggests the RFL is cacking itself at the barrage of criticism, plus the huge damage to the credibility of the sport that will occur if any club is chosen to be removed.
No club should be removed based upon the opinions of people who were responsible for allowing Leighton Samuel and the whole Crusaders farce to take place.
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| They said about 18 months ago it was remaining at 14
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| Quote ="Dico"They said about 18 months ago it was remaining at 14'"
They said 18 months ago it would remain at 14, what a forward thinking set up they have at the RFL.
I wonder if anything they said 18 months ago as changed or is it all still cast in iron.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Yes, i forgot to include Netherton. Other than that the principle was correct.'"
No it wasn't. What about James Webster, Jon Goddard & Makali Aizue? There were plenty of others who played a substantial number of games having come up with HKR from NL1, but these three all played a minimum of 19 which I reckon qualifies as 'any regularity'.
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| Quote ="kiwiballs"They said 18 months ago it would remain at 14, what a forward thinking set up they have at the RFL.
I wonder if anything they said 18 months ago as changed or is it all still cast in iron.'"
So criticised if they haven't said something and criticised if they have?
Give it a rest.
It's staying at 14 clubs. The RFL have made it clear enough and given no reason (other than not constantly repeating themselves) to suggest otherwise.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"[uSo criticised if they haven't said something and criticised if they have?[/u
Give it a rest.
It's staying at 14 clubs. The RFL have made it clear enough and given no reason (other than not constantly repeating themselves) to suggest otherwise.'"
Not at all, just don't think they can plan that far ahead, obviously you do and have bought into everything they tell you, good for you i like sheep.
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| Quote ="Kingmaker"No it wasn't. What about James Webster, Jon Goddard & Makali Aizue? There were plenty of others who played a substantial number of games having come up with HKR from NL1, but these three all played a minimum of 19 which I reckon qualifies as 'any regularity'.'"
Do any of James Webster, Jon Goddard & Makali Aizue play for Hull KR now? If you would like to name the players (bar the 4 named) who played regularly at HKR in 2007 and still play for them now then maybe you could argue the statement Quote ="SmokeyTA"
In fact only Murrell, Fisher, and Cockayne featured with any regularity and are still there now.'" if not, i can only assume you have made the same mistake as the others, which in your case is worse as it has been explained numerous times and pointed out numerous times since, that the statement Quote ="SmokeyTA"
In fact only Murrell, Fisher, and Cockayne featured with any regularity and are still there now.'" doesnt mean only Murrell, Fisher, and Cockayne (and Netherton) played for Hull KR in 2006 and 2007. I honestly cant believe so many people got confused by it.
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| Quote ="kiwiballs"Not at all, just don't think they can plan that far ahead, obviously you do and have bought into everything they tell you, good for you i like sheep.'"
The clubs voted for the amount of clubs to be kept the same. The RFL didnt decide it.
He probably hasnt 'bought into everything' they have told him, just read and understood it. Unlike others.
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| Back to the Op , but with a different slant on it , having an odd number of teams in a competition as we do in the Championship is also problematic , Leigh this season have only dropped points on two occaisions , both times when playing on a short turnaround against opposition that had had an extra weeks rest , do they have this problem in Australia ? , with clubs losing games having been affected by the ' Bye ' week ?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"So criticised if they haven't said something and criticised if they have?
Give it a rest.
It's staying at 14 clubs. The RFL have made it clear enough and given no reason (other than not constantly repeating themselves) to suggest otherwise.'"
The RFL has not categorically stated anything. There is absolutely nothing in any of the documentation surrounding the licensing process that states Super league will remain at 14 clubs.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Back to the Op , but with a different slant on it , having an odd number of teams in a competition as we do in the Championship is also problematic , Leigh this season have only dropped points on two occaisions , both times when playing on a short turnaround against opposition that had had an extra weeks rest , do they have this problem in Australia ? , with clubs losing games having been affected by the ' Bye ' week ?'"
Leigh have possibly been a little unfortunate in this regard, especially with the weeks happening thus far however many coaches argue that the week off is a negative influence. I suppose it depends, if you're carrying a couple of knocks a week off does you the world of good.
Swings and roundabouts im guessing. But no, the 4 day? turnaround probably didnt help
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| Quote ="Dico"Leigh have possibly been a little unfortunate in this regard, especially with the weeks happening thus far however many coaches argue that the week off is a negative influence. I suppose it depends, if you're carrying a couple of knocks a week off does you the world of good.
Swings and roundabouts im guessing. But no, the 4 day? turnaround probably didnt help'"
In the Championship this is compounded with the thursday TV games as well , especially with PT players , John Duffy could hardly walk on Monday as he was injured last Sunday leaving the pitch and not returning , but put his hand up to play last night
We hear about SL clubs coaches complaining about the easter matches , quite often a Championship club will play friday/monday/thursday over easter to satisfy SKY , without recieving any monetary compensation
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| Quote ="Starbug"In the Championship this is compounded with the thursday TV games as well , especially with PT players , John Duffy could hardly walk on Monday as he was injured last Sunday leaving the pitch and not returning , but put his hand up to play last night
We hear about SL clubs coaches complaining about the easter matches , quite often a Championship club will play friday/monday/thursday over easter to satisfy SKY , without recieving any monetary compensation'"
Here here. Hopefully some day the Championhip will get a TV deal in it's own right. I've always though Sunday evening is a great time. Could throw in highlights into that as well. Sure they did that in the past when I was a wee nipper
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| Quote ="Hartster"The RFL has not categorically stated anything. There is absolutely nothing in any of the documentation surrounding the licensing process that states Super league will remain at 14 clubs.'"
Other than on their website under licensing, frequently asked questions where they say Quote ="The RFL"At this stage the Super League will remain at 14 clubs in 2012.'"
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| SL = GREED = Go take a jump the rest of the RFL!!!!. We don't give a monkeys including the international game.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"SL = GREED = Go take a jump the rest of the RFL!!!!. We don't give a monkeys including the international game.'"
You're so right. I mean, as an example, in the coming few days, a team of leading English and Exiles SL players will be released by their clubs to go hammer and tongs at each other in the interests of the wider picture and the national team.
Oh, hang on . . .. ![DOH icon_biggrin.gifOH:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_doh.gif)
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"1 and 2 are within the same answer. I put Bradford in at the end and forgot to change the 9 to 10. [uPeople often talk about Bradfords stadium like it is as bad as Cas and Wakey but it isn't[/u. It has a whole end of the ground which is brand new and dedicated to hospitality. It has almost 6k seats which is more than a lot of other stadiums, The terracing is not crumbling away like most old grounds and it is a high capacity for the big games.
The 3rd one was controversial but you only have to look at the crowds last time they were in super league to notice they will do better than most current super league teams. The local derbies agains Wigan, Saints and especially Warrington will be pulling 9-10k maybe even sell-outs. Their away support has also always been superb from what I have seen. I bet they will be the best supported team at MM, yes because its their first game but it shows the fans are willing to travel.
As for being competitive, the chairman has already said they will be spending to the full cap. [uThis will automatically make them a top 8 team as there is only around 6 or 7 teams who actually spend the full cap[/u.'"
Odsal is ok when its not raining. When it is the away fans are obliged to stand in the wind and rain and get soaked, in the same way they are at Wakey. At least at Cas you can get under cover unless the game is near capacity.
2nd point - absolute rubbish! Cas spend nowhere near the salary cap and are doing better than 3 teams spending up to the cap or certainly a lot more. Spending is no guarantee of success.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Other than on their website under licensing, frequently asked questions where they say '"
The clue to it not being a categorical statement, or absolutely fixed, regarding the licence grants for 2012 onwards lies in just three words of what you quoted.
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| It's about time the RFL started to scribe their plans in the flesh. Then there would be no doubt. You could fit the rudiments of franchising on Nigel Wood's stomach using a scalpel and some indian ink.
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| It appears that [isomeone[/i has never heard of plastic surgery!
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| I guess it shows the RFL don't have the balls to kick anyone out. But then you have to wonder why they decided to go down the franchising route, then.
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| Quote ="Pinkerton"I guess it shows the RFL don't have the balls to kick anyone out. But then you have to wonder why they decided to go down the franchising route, then.'"
To put a certain welsh team into super league. A team who, if playing to the same rules as all the other clubs and playing to the laws of the land, would never have made it under their own steam!
But don't question it. They "enrich" the sport with their 50 away fans, vast empty terraces when live on sky sports, constant financial problems and nomadic existence. Franchising = good
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| Quote ="Hartster"The clue to it not being a categorical statement, or absolutely fixed, regarding the licence grants for 2012 onwards lies in just three words of what you quoted.'" It is categorical, it categorically states that at this time the the league will stay at 14 clubs and the RFL are planning on the basis that there will be 14 clubs. They dont address any other possibility.
They have told us there will be 14 clubs, are working on the basis there will be 14 clubs, if something changes they will let us know. It is the only sensible thing for them to do, why you feel the need to find fault with it is beyond me.
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| Quote ="freddies wig"
But don't question it. They "enrich" the sport with their 50 away fans, vast empty terraces when live on sky sports, constant financial problems and nomadic existence. Franchising = good'"
Give Saints a chance PLEASE!!! ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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