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Give me an example , come on how many big multi nationals do lets say Quins,HKR,Saints , even Leeds deal with in deals worth hundreds of thousands , nah , MILLION pound deals ?
Away you go sunshine tell us which clubs sell corporate hospitality for hundreds of thousands of pounds ?
 '" I know the Rhinos do, but of course that information for obvious reasons isnt in the public domain.
Though im sure you will explain how Leeds turn over nearly £12m a year with less than a hundred thousand from corporates, and less than a million in sponsorship.
But what we do know, is that all the corporate hospitality sales leeds make, and all their sponsorship deals are done a few weeks before the season starts, which makes me wonder why they employ a year round corporate and commercial sales team? | | |
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Give me an example , come on how many big multi nationals do lets say Quins,HKR,Saints , even Leeds deal with in deals worth hundreds of thousands , nah , MILLION pound deals ?
Away you go sunshine tell us which clubs sell corporate hospitality for hundreds of thousands of pounds ?
'" =#0000FFI know the Rhinos do, but of course that information for obvious reasons isnt in the public domain.'"
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Give me an example , come on how many big multi nationals do lets say Quins,HKR,Saints , even Leeds deal with in deals worth hundreds of thousands , nah , MILLION pound deals ?
Away you go sunshine tell us which clubs sell corporate hospitality for hundreds of thousands of pounds ?
'" :2i1cws3nI know the Rhinos do, but of course that information for obvious reasons isnt in the public domain.
Though im sure you will explain how Leeds turn over nearly £12m a year with less than a hundred thousand from corporates, and less than a million in sponsorship.
But what we do know, is that all the corporate hospitality sales leeds make, and all their sponsorship deals are done a few weeks before the season starts, which makes me wonder why they employ a year round corporate and commercial sales team?'" :2i1cws3n
So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions , maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there
Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant '"
How do you know then?'"that would be telling
or in a more boring way, i have worked with companies who have taken out corporate hospitality and sponsorship with the rhinos.
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Give me an example , come on how many big multi nationals do lets say Quins,HKR,Saints , even Leeds deal with in deals worth hundreds of thousands , nah , MILLION pound deals ?
Away you go sunshine tell us which clubs sell corporate hospitality for hundreds of thousands of pounds ?
'" =#0000FFI know the Rhinos do, but of course that information for obvious reasons isnt in the public domain.'"
How do you know then?'"
Simple maths , ave corporate , no top corporate £ 100 per cover per game , so that would be 1,000 covers per season , so that would need a company to take around 60/70 seats per match for a whole season , i'm sure there are companies taking 6/7 tables for every match at Headingley , the same deal would take ALL the corporate at Saints,Cas,Wakey,HKR,Salford and large slices of Huddersfield,Crusaders , not forgetting the hundreds that attend at the stoop | | | |
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Give me an example , come on how many big multi nationals do lets say Quins,HKR,Saints , even Leeds deal with in deals worth hundreds of thousands , nah , MILLION pound deals ?
Away you go sunshine tell us which clubs sell corporate hospitality for hundreds of thousands of pounds ?
'" :2wstr42y=#0000FF:2wstr42yI know the Rhinos do, but of course that information for obvious reasons isnt in the public domain.:2wstr42y'" :2wstr42y
How do you know then?'" :2wstr42ythat would be telling
or in a more boring way, i have worked with companies who have taken out corporate hospitality and sponsorship with the rhinos.'" ? | | |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets. |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets. | |
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Give me an example , come on how many big multi nationals do lets say Quins,HKR,Saints , even Leeds deal with in deals worth hundreds of thousands , nah , MILLION pound deals ?
Away you go sunshine tell us which clubs sell corporate hospitality for hundreds of thousands of pounds ?
'" =#0000FFI know the Rhinos do, but of course that information for obvious reasons isnt in the public domain.'"
How do you know then?'" that would be telling
or in a more boring way, i have worked with companies who have taken out corporate hospitality and sponsorship with the rhinos.'"
So Leeds have a large corporate because they have use of the cricket facilities , who else ? , W1g4n maybe , Hull ?
Dont forget we are taking hundreds of thousands per company , not a box for 5/6 grand a year [ which is the average in SL ?'" Leeds have large corporate facilities because they have them. They make more from the corporates in the Carnegie stand than they do in the north stand. Have you been in the corporate facilities in the Carnegie stand, they are lovely.
as for other clubs, i dont know, i havent mentioned them, simply that this money is out there if you can go and get it. Like Leeds did. | | | |
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Give me an example , come on how many big multi nationals do lets say Quins,HKR,Saints , even Leeds deal with in deals worth hundreds of thousands , nah , MILLION pound deals ?
Away you go sunshine tell us which clubs sell corporate hospitality for hundreds of thousands of pounds ?
'" I know the Rhinos do, but of course that information for obvious reasons isnt in the public domain.
Though im sure you will explain how Leeds turn over nearly £12m a year with less than a hundred thousand from corporates, and less than a million in sponsorship.
=#FF0000But what we do know, is that all the corporate hospitality sales leeds make, and all their sponsorship deals =#FF0000are done a few weeks before the season starts, which makes me wonder why they employ a year round corporate and commercial sales team?'"
So Leeds sell out ALL their corporate facilities pre season , ALL of them ? , so if I wanted to dine at a Leeds game and I wanted to book it mid season , I couldn't ?
Beside which you were suggesting a hypothetical club in Leigh could sell these years in advance and yet the mighty Leeds only sell them a few weeks before the season starts
Contradiction time again , maybe they need more ' preparation ' time | | |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" =#FF0000no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" =#FF0000no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
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Give me an example , come on how many big multi nationals do lets say Quins,HKR,Saints , even Leeds deal with in deals worth hundreds of thousands , nah , MILLION pound deals ?
Away you go sunshine tell us which clubs sell corporate hospitality for hundreds of thousands of pounds ?
'" I know the Rhinos do, but of course that information for obvious reasons isnt in the public domain.
Though im sure you will explain how Leeds turn over nearly £12m a year with less than a hundred thousand from corporates, and less than a million in sponsorship.
=#FF0000But what we do know, is that all the corporate hospitality sales leeds make, and all their sponsorship deals =#FF0000are done a few weeks before the season starts, which makes me wonder why they employ a year round corporate and commercial sales team?'"
So Leeds sell out ALL their corporate facilities pre season , ALL of them ? , so if I wanted to dine at a Leeds game and I wanted to book it mid season , I couldn't ?
Beside which you were suggesting a hypothetical club in Leigh could sell these years in advance and yet the mighty Leeds only sell them a few weeks before the season starts
Contradiction time again , maybe they need more ' preparation ' time
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i being a sarcastic there Starbug, i.e it would be idiotic to pretend leeds sold all their corporate facilities in the few short weeks before the season starts.
its clear the sarcasm didnt work as expected, however you deciding to argue how idiotic your own point (that clubs can only sell their corporates and sponsorship a few weeks before the season starts) was quite the unexpected bonus. | | |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" =#FF0000no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" =#FF0000no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
It costs ' hundreds of thousands ' to go in those ?'"
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
It costs ' hundreds of thousands ' to go in those ?'"
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
It costs ' hundreds of thousands ' to go in those ?'"
They are SL clubs, fella.'"
So they should have no problem selling millions of pounds worth of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of corporate sales to individual companies , should they ?
And does it cost hundreds of thousands to book a ' box ' at wakefield ? , well does it ? |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
It costs ' hundreds of thousands ' to go in those ?'"
They are SL clubs, fella.'"
So they should have no problem selling millions of pounds worth of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of corporate sales to individual companies , should they ?
And does it cost hundreds of thousands to book a ' box ' at wakefield ? , well does it ? | |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" =#FF0000no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Yes you did'"
=#FF0000no i didnt, i even repeated what i said for you.
at some stage i will have to accept, im just making an old man look stupid. Not yet though'"
Yes you did , you stated that if you ' prepare ' you could draw in hundreds of thousands of corporate and millions of sponsorship pounds , that is exactly what you said
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" =#FF0000no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Yes you did'"
=#FF0000no i didnt, i even repeated what i said for you.
at some stage i will have to accept, im just making an old man look stupid. Not yet though'"
Yes you did , you stated that if you ' prepare ' you could draw in hundreds of thousands of corporate and millions of sponsorship pounds , that is exactly what you said
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Give me an example , come on how many big multi nationals do lets say Quins,HKR,Saints , even Leeds deal with in deals worth hundreds of thousands , nah , MILLION pound deals ?
Away you go sunshine tell us which clubs sell corporate hospitality for hundreds of thousands of pounds ?
'" :3udrr010I know the Rhinos do, but of course that information for obvious reasons isnt in the public domain.
Though im sure you will explain how Leeds turn over nearly £12m a year with less than a hundred thousand from corporates, and less than a million in sponsorship.
=#FF0000:3udrr010But what we do know, is that all the corporate hospitality sales leeds make:3udrr010, and all their sponsorship deals =#FF0000:3udrr010are done a few weeks before the season starts:3udrr010, which makes me wonder why they employ a year round corporate and commercial sales team?'" :3udrr010
So Leeds sell out ALL their corporate facilities pre season , ALL of them ? , so if I wanted to dine at a Leeds game and I wanted to book it mid season , I couldn't ?
Beside which you were suggesting a hypothetical club in Leigh could sell these years in advance and yet the mighty Leeds only sell them a few weeks before the season starts
Contradiction time again , maybe they need more ' preparation ' time
'" :3udrr010
=#FF0000:3udrr010i being a sarcastic there Starbug, i.e it would be idiotic to pretend leeds sold all their corporate facilities in the few short weeks before the season starts.:3udrr010
its clear the sarcasm didnt work as expected, however you deciding to argue how idiotic your own point (that clubs can only sell their corporates and sponsorship a few weeks before the season starts) was quite the unexpected bonus.'" before the season starts , so I could not book a seat/table mid season ? , is that what you are saying , they sell ALL of it what 3/4 months before ? , maybe 6/7 months ? , maybe 12 months , so they have nearly sold it for season 2012 now ?, I'll ring tommorrow and ask | | |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" =#FF0000no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Yes you did'"
=#FF0000no i didnt, i even repeated what i said for you.
at some stage i will have to accept, im just making an old man look stupid. Not yet though'"
Yes you did , you stated that if you ' prepare ' you could draw in hundreds of thousands of corporate and millions of sponsorship pounds , that is exactly what you said
You are the one looking stupid here'" this new quote thing means you had to include my quote, its clearly not there. |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" =#FF0000no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Yes you did'"
=#FF0000no i didnt, i even repeated what i said for you.
at some stage i will have to accept, im just making an old man look stupid. Not yet though'"
Yes you did , you stated that if you ' prepare ' you could draw in hundreds of thousands of corporate and millions of sponsorship pounds , that is exactly what you said
You are the one looking stupid here'" this new quote thing means you had to include my quote, its clearly not there. | |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
It costs ' hundreds of thousands ' to go in those ?'"
They are SL clubs, fella.'"
So they should have no problem selling millions of pounds worth of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of corporate sales to individual companies , should they ?
And does it cost hundreds of thousands to book a ' box ' at wakefield ? , well does it ?'" I like this new quote thing, it shows when you make up things like i said [iWakefield sell a box for hundreds of thousands of pounds[/i, rather than [iwith a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets[/i. That you clearly made it up. I dont even have to explain it. Its right there.
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
It costs ' hundreds of thousands ' to go in those ?'"
They are SL clubs, fella.'"
So they should have no problem selling millions of pounds worth of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of corporate sales to individual companies , should they ?
And does it cost hundreds of thousands to book a ' box ' at wakefield ? , well does it ?'" I like this new quote thing, it shows when you make up things like i said [iWakefield sell a box for hundreds of thousands of pounds[/i, rather than [iwith a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets[/i. That you clearly made it up. I dont even have to explain it. Its right there.
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Give me an example , come on how many big multi nationals do lets say Quins,HKR,Saints , even Leeds deal with in deals worth hundreds of thousands , nah , MILLION pound deals ?
Away you go sunshine tell us which clubs sell corporate hospitality for hundreds of thousands of pounds ?
'" I know the Rhinos do, but of course that information for obvious reasons isnt in the public domain.
Though im sure you will explain how Leeds turn over nearly £12m a year with less than a hundred thousand from corporates, and less than a million in sponsorship.
=#FF0000But what we do know, is that all the corporate hospitality sales leeds make, and all their sponsorship deals =#FF0000are done a few weeks before the season starts, which makes me wonder why they employ a year round corporate and commercial sales team?'"
So Leeds sell out ALL their corporate facilities pre season , ALL of them ? , so if I wanted to dine at a Leeds game and I wanted to book it mid season , I couldn't ?
Beside which you were suggesting a hypothetical club in Leigh could sell these years in advance and yet the mighty Leeds only sell them a few weeks before the season starts
Contradiction time again , maybe they need more ' preparation ' time
'"
=#FF0000i being a sarcastic there Starbug, i.e it would be idiotic to pretend leeds sold all their corporate facilities in the few short weeks before the season starts.
its clear the sarcasm didnt work as expected, however you deciding to argue how idiotic your own point (that clubs can only sell their corporates and sponsorship a few weeks before the season starts) was quite the unexpected bonus.'"
So Leeds sell all their corporate [ I said corporate not sponsorship as that is different before the season starts , so I could not book a seat/table mid season ? , is that what you are saying , they sell ALL of it what 3/4 months before ? , maybe 6/7 months ? , maybe 12 months , so they have nearly sold it for season 2012 now ?, I'll ring tommorrow and ask'" no, im saying nothing of the sort. how is it still not sinking in.
But at least you have stopped arguing against your own point now, and started on a point no-one has made, but at least its not against yourself. Thats progress.
But i really have to ask, what part of [iit would be idiotic to pretend leeds sold all their corporate facilities in the few short weeks before the season starts[/i did you think meant [iSo Leeds sell all their corporate [ I said corporate not sponsorship as that is different before the season starts ,[/i | | |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
It costs ' hundreds of thousands ' to go in those ?'"
They are SL clubs, fella.'"
So they should have no problem selling millions of pounds worth of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of corporate sales to individual companies , should they ?
And does it cost hundreds of thousands to book a ' box ' at wakefield ? , well does it ?'" I like this new quote thing, it shows when you make up things like i said Wakefield sell a box for hundreds of thousands of pounds, rather than with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets. That you clearly made it up. =#FF0000I dont even have to explain it. Its right there.
You dont seem to have noticed this yet'"
Because you cant
You suggested that a club like Leigh would be able to bring in millions of pounds of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds of corporate sales if they were able to prepare for 2/3 seasons , and yet there are most of the clubs already in SL unable to do this , you used one club , just one club as an example , but are unable to supply any kind of proof of this , you suggest that a well run club like Leeds will bring in sponsorship and corporate sales many months , even years prior to the actual games being played , as I said , I'll test this tommorrow , to see if I can book a table for a season 2012 or even a 2011 game ? |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
It costs ' hundreds of thousands ' to go in those ?'"
They are SL clubs, fella.'"
So they should have no problem selling millions of pounds worth of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of corporate sales to individual companies , should they ?
And does it cost hundreds of thousands to book a ' box ' at wakefield ? , well does it ?'" I like this new quote thing, it shows when you make up things like i said Wakefield sell a box for hundreds of thousands of pounds, rather than with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets. That you clearly made it up. =#FF0000I dont even have to explain it. Its right there.
You dont seem to have noticed this yet'"
Because you cant
You suggested that a club like Leigh would be able to bring in millions of pounds of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds of corporate sales if they were able to prepare for 2/3 seasons , and yet there are most of the clubs already in SL unable to do this , you used one club , just one club as an example , but are unable to supply any kind of proof of this , you suggest that a well run club like Leeds will bring in sponsorship and corporate sales many months , even years prior to the actual games being played , as I said , I'll test this tommorrow , to see if I can book a table for a season 2012 or even a 2011 game ? | |
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So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
It costs ' hundreds of thousands ' to go in those ?'"
They are SL clubs, fella.'"
So they should have no problem selling millions of pounds worth of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of corporate sales to individual companies , should they ?
And does it cost hundreds of thousands to book a ' box ' at wakefield ? , well does it ?'" I like this new quote thing, it shows when you make up things like i said Wakefield sell a box for hundreds of thousands of pounds, rather than with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets. That you clearly made it up. =#FF0000I dont even have to explain it. Its right there.
You dont seem to have noticed this yet'"
Because you cant
You suggested that a club like Leigh would be able to bring in millions of pounds of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds of corporate sales if they were able to prepare for 2/3 seasons , and yet there are most of the clubs already in SL unable to do this , you used one club , just one club as an example , but are unable to supply any kind of proof of this , you suggest that a well run club like Leeds will bring in sponsorship and corporate sales many months , even years prior to the actual games being played , as I said , I'll test this tommorrow , to see if I can book a table for a season 2012 or even a 2011 game ?'"
Please do, please ring them ask them and post back here, you can have proved a point to yourself that you made up.
You do know people can see you take part of a sentence out of context and argue something completely different. You arent fooling anyone. I dont need to explain how you made it up, because its clear you made it up if they look above what you have put. But you still keep doing it. Its funny to watch. |
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Quote ="Starbug"Quote ="SmokeyTA"Quote ="Starbug"Quote ="SmokeyTA"Quote ="Starbug"Quote ="SmokeyTA"Quote ="Starbug"
So Leeds ' might ' have a sponsoship deal that ' might ' be in the millions , but you dont know , because they wouldn't want to publicise it would they , that sponsor wouldn't want Leeds to advertise that sponsorship would they , in return for their millions ,'" you mean other than the fact they obviously do advertise their sponsorship, like having it written on their shirts for instance. But maybe leeds dont want to say quite how much because it puts them in a weaker bargaining position when they come to renegotiate. Very rarely will clubs themselves advertise how much they sell their sponsorship for. You will likely see only the very largest reported, and then at sums 'thought to be around' a certain figure.
for instance news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8562299.stm where there is no reported figure at all or their previous one news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm
Quote maybe Saints or Cas have deals like that , after all they are SL clubs and have full time ' marketing teams ' selling corporate [ I have been in the corporate at both those clubs , and believe me nobody pays hundreds of thousands to go in there '" =#FF0000I havent mentiond Saints or Cas, its nice of you to bring them in to the conversation though.
Quote Maybe the ' block of flats ' at Wakey and Odsal draw in millions and millions a year ?
Brilliant
'" =#FF0000from what i know of Wakefield, the block of flats are surprisingly profitable.
Quote And you suggest a club like Leigh [ we were discussing a hypothetical situation of Leigh being given 2/3 years to prepare would have big multi nationals queing up
You just get better and better'" no i didnt, it was you who has continually said that clubs would have sponsors, corporates and fans just itching to get involved, that if you wait until promotion it will all come to you, which gives us quite a depressing insight in to Leigh, and all the more proof franchising was desperately desperately needed.
I just said with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets.'"
Why arent they SL clubs ?
It costs ' hundreds of thousands ' to go in those ?'"
They are SL clubs, fella.'"
So they should have no problem selling millions of pounds worth of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of corporate sales to individual companies , should they ?
And does it cost hundreds of thousands to book a ' box ' at wakefield ? , well does it ?'" I like this new quote thing, it shows when you make up things like i said Wakefield sell a box for hundreds of thousands of pounds, rather than with a bit more time, say 2 or 3 years, Leigh would be able to attract better sponsors, more corporates and sell more tickets. That you clearly made it up. =#FF0000I dont even have to explain it. Its right there.
You dont seem to have noticed this yet'"
Because you cant
You suggested that a club like Leigh would be able to bring in millions of pounds of sponsorship and hundreds of thousands of pounds of corporate sales if they were able to prepare for 2/3 seasons , and yet there are most of the clubs already in SL unable to do this , you used one club , just one club as an example , but are unable to supply any kind of proof of this , you suggest that a well run club like Leeds will bring in sponsorship and corporate sales many months , even years prior to the actual games being played , as I said , I'll test this tommorrow , to see if I can book a table for a season 2012 or even a 2011 game ?'"
Please do, please ring them ask them and post back here, you can have proved a point to yourself that you made up.
You do know people can see you take part of a sentence out of context and argue something completely different. You arent fooling anyone. I dont need to explain how you made it up, because its clear you made it up if they look above what you have put. But you still keep doing it. Its funny to watch. | |
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maybe they would have been better spending a couple of years preparing?
like Toulouse?
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Toulouse should have been specifically told that they were going into SL in 2012 , and that they would play a full round of games in the Championship in 2011 to prepare , these games would not count on the 2011 chapionship season table and would be funded by the SL clubs , also their inclusion would not affect the inclusion of a Championship club moving up to SL in 2012
Not difficult , it just needed some bollox from the RFL'"
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA":1f5q0tysQuote ="Starbug":1f5q0tysIt's a good job the Celtic Crusaders didn't know they were getting a SL spot , they could have made enough money to stay in Bridgend if they had
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maybe they would have been better spending a couple of years preparing?
like Toulouse?
Quote ="Starbug":1f5q0tys
Toulouse should have been specifically told that they were going into SL in 2012 , and that they would play a full round of games in the Championship in 2011 to prepare , these games would not count on the 2011 chapionship season table and would be funded by the SL clubs , also their inclusion would not affect the inclusion of a Championship club moving up to SL in 2012
Not difficult , it just needed some bollox from the RFL'" :1f5q0tys
now why would they play a full round of games to prepare? And funded by the SL clubs to help them prepare? surely not starry? Say it ain't so?'" , allowing them to build a full time squad , and acclimatise themselves to the travelling needed
Yes they would have been able to make fans and potential sponsors aware of their impending SL entry
This however was an idea in prefference to their precence in the Championship which I consider has been disruptive,expensive and unneccessary , they face unique problems that british based Championship clubs dont , ie travelling and not actually knowing how strong a team they needed
The main purpose would still have been from a playing perspective , as for any sponsorship/corporate benifits , as I am not very familiar with both the Toulouse club and the potential support it could draw locally/nationally I could not comment | | | |
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