What derby?

Halifax Bradford, Halifax Huddersfield and Halifax Leeds.

Far too many then needed

Well would definitely be cool to see Fax back in SL.

I can confirm that was neither me or any of my family.
I do remember whizzing myself laughing when I first found out about it though.

I just want to see a good, near(ish) place to go in Numbers for Fartown.

Bloody hell isn't Cas, Leeds, Bradford & Wakey enough for ya?

Its a shame they took them out of the floodlights to do it though.

cricket is there for all to see , using the franchise model has proved a massive success with full stadia every week

Oh hang on , no it hasn't , apart from International and 20 twenty , nobody goes to watch it , how well is it doing at the level below county , does anybody know , or even care ?

Edited for accuracy.

Does that even mean Halifax?

You clearly can't read and must be poor at maths! £12k sounds ok to me and £24k would not be the end of the world but doubt it would be that much by a long way. So to cover my £12k hire I only need 600 paying adults through the gate and then I am in profit, I can hire some office space in Wakefield to run my admin team and ticket office out of for next to bugger all a m2, and then I just need some training facilities which I can hire ad-hoc in Wakefield or Barnsley. No PL insurance to pay, no ground staff to pay, no rates, no buildings insurance or ground maintenance costs... makes you wonder why more clubs in SL don't ground share... hang on...

I am very positive about the situation my club faces today, a new TV screen score board for next season to replace an old but well served electronic score board and the rebuilding on the South Stand... although Uncle Gary will have to go into a bit of debt for a few years but he feels it is worth it. When you sell 10k + season tickets a year it doesn't take that long to get some money in.

Maybe because the only club actually making any money in SL owns it's stadium

This is true and we still allow a loss making team to share with us... how generous are we!



I don't think for one second it is a long term solution for Trinity being at Oakwell, as while costs are low as against keeping Belle Vue going you also lose out on making more profit at a new modern ground and therefore it is more sustainable to be at a new facility.

You only make money at a new modern ground if you have a high profile football club as the other user , or you own it , if as it will be a ' council facility ' , then it could easily be a bad move financially for Wakey

FFS....let's have magic weekend for every round and play in 27 different stadiums over the season?
Simplez

Yeah that'd work.

My reading and maths are fine thanks. You must be a wealthy guy. First you say hiring Oakwell wont cost much then 'accpet' £12-£24K as being okay. For the finances of a club like wakey £12k to £24k ('not the end of the world'

)is substantial.

The '£12k = 600 fully paying adults' is toytown economics. Almost as idiotic as the offices / training facilities being easy to get and 'costing b*gger all'. It is this slap dash attitude to what things actually cost that leads to many organisations having financial problems. Incidentally while you used 600 full paying adults at £20(?) as an ilustration the average payment per fan at a wakey game is likely to be £8 -£10 - this takes into account concessions, season tickets, junior tickets and some free tickets. so it is closer to 1200 to 1500 attendees to cover £12K. HTH

I think the £15000 per game for a 23000 stadium like Oakwell is a reasonable assumption. So a seasons hire would be 13 x £15K. £195K (assuming no friendlies or cup games). Add office space for business staff and for coaches. A shop(?)Add training facilities and playing faclities for junior grade games that were played at Belle Vue. Now you think the savings in insurance + ground maintainance + ground staff (are these guys going to be fired?) will be greater than £195k + all the other costs. You are totally deluded and I hope no one like you is advising wakey.

However the financial situation would be worse than this. There would be loses on hosipitality + ground advertising + stadium naming rights. There are additonal marketing costs (to tell people about the new venue) stationary costs etc. And there is every likelihood that over the season the attendances woud be down as some people will not travel.

To try and claim that moving to Oakwell for a season is economically beneficial may be comforting to some wakey fans however it is delusional. The Trinity and RFL boards are highly unlikely to share this dilusion.

Thanks for the concern, no really

You kids hate facts intruding on your fictions.

It would only work for you if all 27 stadiums used were in Hull

A Magic event in Yorkshire or Lancashire is the way ahead IMO.



Hey looks like our RL-mad city is hopefully getting showpiece International RL back, woo-hoo.

Tell me what you actually know about the these facts and not the make believe what is in your head. How exactly do you know what Patrick Cryne will charge Wakey for using Barnsley when at this moment there is no evidence to show that Wakey have any intention of using Oakwell, perhaps the Wakey Bod have discussed the matter with you,

but then again perhaps not, but don't let that stop you from trying to impress upon people on here that you actually know what you are talking about and fabricating figures to suit your obvious lack of knowledge of the situation.

He's right though.
Granted, no one here has the figures, but unless Barnsley are running a charity there it isnt going to be cheap.
Whats the latest on the stadium situation?