You mean some idiot in your local / your mate / your mum said it, so it must be true. Cretin.

Its a shame there is no local union club close to wakefield to bail them out aswell

Quote ="Eurob0y"By agreeing to let them write off their debts and start afresh or something like that, without having to be relegated. '" news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 316545.stm The club was sold to another holding company and the remaining 11 Super League clubs agreed that London Broncos should keep their SLE membership. Errr..... that was it. The only time the RFL was involved was when the new company left a security bond with the RFL. Quote But at the four-and-a-half hour meeting, Super League clubs agreed to let London restructure their finances to allow them to continue trading. '" Quote London's players will be transferred to the new company while the management will be required to place a 'substantial financial bond' with the Rugby Football League. '" HTH

Quote ="Eurob0y"By agreeing to let them write off their debts and start afresh or something like that, without having to be relegated. '" news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 316545.stm The club was sold to another holding company and the remaining 11 Super League clubs agreed that London Broncos should keep their SLE membership. Errr..... that was it. The only time the RFL was involved was when the new company left a security bond with the RFL. Quote But at the four-and-a-half hour meeting, Super League clubs agreed to let London restructure their finances to allow them to continue trading. '" Quote London's players will be transferred to the new company while the management will be required to place a 'substantial financial bond' with the Rugby Football League. '" HTH

Richard Lewis said if the clubs voted to take all accrued points off London Broncos up to that point then he would consider it a vote of no confidence in him and he would walk. The clubs then voted in favour of letting London keep the points (the then Widnes Chairman Tony Chambers voted in favour of letting London keep the points to the dismay of many Widnes fans).
Strictly speaking it wasn't 'bailing out' London but can you imagine Richard Lewis doing the same thing for Wakefield IF the rumours are to be believed.

a post on the wakey board by a poster with some inside knowledge (TRB) woud seem to support the gist of what Wadski points out!

So it is not trouble causing giants fans making up rumours!

That's roughly how I remember it as well, although I'm not sure if Widnes weren't one of two clubs who abstained in the vote, the other (IIRC correctly) being Wakefield. I think the vote went through with a majority of two.

Wakefield and Widnes both abstained. Wakefield CEO explained the reasons at a shareholders meeting soon after the decision. As well as the threats from Lewis I seem to remember the Sky contract being used as leverage too.

Oh Goody....a Blame London Thread

I'm fairly sure it was 5-4 with 2 abstentions (Wakefield and Widnes as already mentioned). The 4 naysayers were Wigan, Leigh, Salford and Bradford I think.

That's right. Maurice Lindsay wanted to temporarily suspend us until all the relevant facts were known.

Since there is now a rule that would make that impossible - no. A rule introduced with the backing of all the SL clubs in the wake of what happened with the Broncos, by the way.

Pot and Kettle spring to mind there


I remember all the threads at the time.....hours of endless fun repeatedly asking for FACTS instead of rumours and opinions. Bottom line is, part of the Licence application reasoning was to ensure that clubs didn't do a London or Widnes in the future. If it's true, and Wakey did raise a load of revenue to get their licence, but now find themselves in trouble, I can see only one outcome and it's not one that Wakefield will find palatable.
The cold hard facts as I see them is that (removing the Salford game as there is no comparison from last year) average gates for the corresponding fixtures so far are 17% down on last year....so about 1,100 less fans per game. This is worrying as if these fans are worth £10 each a ticket and another £10 on residuals (beer food etc) then that is a £22,000 a game hole in the clubs finances.
£300,000 less revenue than last year points to headcount needing to be reduced (either playing or back room staff) to ensure the club stay on course to achieve the targets they were set by the RFL.
As for the new ground, I still say that unless £30,000,000 is already in place, Wakefield and Castleford should share a new stadium. This is not a merger, just financial common sense.

Lastly, I would hate to see any club go to the wall and I hope Wakey can turn their "supposed" problems around.

P.S. Before some wag comes along and points out that a Quins fans is harping on about attendances, I was only looking at the overall picture at wakey, where some players seem to be on very good wages. In London, we have "managed the expectations" of our players and therefore can operate on out piddly little crowds.

Another idiot who doesn't have a clue...

Of course not. He would just let Wakefield rot, like he should have done with London. London are quickly running out of options. First the RFL save them, then the RFU save them, what next? If only wakefield had these kind of options.

It has been shown time and time again that this is not true, yet you still spout this rubbish.

london/quins rl were more than grateful when harlequins ru took them in. don't try and tell us that it didn't help the club.

Ok then, London were saved by the other super league clubs. Happy now? Will they also save Wakefield? Will the RFU step in to save Wakefield?

You have to remember he gets all his information from Wikipedia.

Of course it helped them, it saved them...again

Really? OK, if you say so, but remember, opinions are like @rseholes...we all have on.



Please explain? Crowds are 2 points in the licence appplication and we are fully aware of the need to increase them. As for the other options open to us, these include feilding 3 current England internationals, sitting 5th of 14 with a game in hand, having an award winning community team, playing one of the fastest growing team sports in the Greater London area, having a team with more british players than some other "older" teams, having a reserve team sitting 5th with a game in hand that is full of home grown talent.....
loads of "options" there



As has been pointed out, the RFL did not save us........and as for the RFU



you really have no idea what you are talking about. We are not connected to Harlequins Rugby Union in any financial way. We have seperate Chairmen, back office staff, community teams and even operations managers......but if you believe that Francis Baron and the guys across the road at Twickenham have some secret agenda then you sir are watching too many old re-runs of the x-files.

Aye, and the sad, bitter old man at the end of the bar

I don't recall speaking to him!

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If you dont know him, then that means its you

That is what I was implying