Sincerley hope they survive, but it's likely any buyer will wait until the 11th hour to make a move in order to drive the hardest bargain.

As somebody who until now has defended the license system to my mates, I'm beginning to wonder how despite all the claims to the contrary, it's working? Three clubs in administration in three seasons, and one of them liquidated?! It just doesn't stack up.

Shouldn’t you be concentrating on Stadia matters and stuff

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I’ve no idea how the points deduction is worked out, you maybe correct regarding a mid-season collapse as opposed to closed season, however, Wakefield’s was right on the cusp of the new season as opposed to Crusaders, but both got same four point deduction?

If we do survive this season, the challenge will be to keep as many as possible of those fans having lost our best young players and restored season ticket prices to more realistic levels.

All these people with wish lists of Bulls players to snap up make me sick - as they did last year re Wakey. I hope the Bulls survive as intact as possible.

If they get liquidated then their points are not going to matter as they will not exist. I am sure Bradford are not that worried about the points and just want to avoid being wound up.

Why? you are talking about young men some with families. I doubt they can support them in the Championship. If they can secure their future then good for them, the more that get snapped up the better. It is not their fault the club was mismanaged and the fans were not willing to pay anything for their season tickets.

Question - if Bradford liquidate, do all the games they've played void and the teams that beat them lose points?

I would imagine Yes, if they are unable to complete the season.

Probably just award a win for every team who played them and a win for remaining fixtures. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair as Leeds would potentially lose out as they play 3 games against them this season.

Yes.

Good point and I didn't think about that... but it will still adjust the table, because anyone who has played them and lost will gain 2 points.

I assume they will adjust the points for & against as well?

What would that matter though? Performances on the field are the last thing that the RFL take in to consideration for licensing. If they do manage to get through this, and its a big if, then as long as they are sound in every other aspect it will give them time to grow.

But it will adjust for everyone as everyone will be awarded a win for every game against the Bulls. For the points difference, they could just say 0 or a win by 10. Just guess work at the min. Knowing the RFL they'll probably let current results stand and award wins for the remaining fixtures.

I think the best way of doing it is probably to wipe all of their results except the Magic Weekend one, so every team has played 25 games on the table at the end of the season, instead of Leeds having 24.

Probably better to give everyone 2 points for each of the Bulls fixtures with a win by 10 points. What would have happened if the Bulls had won at Manchester? I think Leeds would be calling it unfair.

I hate to say this, because I want Bradford in SL, but at this stage I think they (sadly) need to face the consequences, even if that means they disappear. I hope that the city of Bradford sees SL rugby again, sooner rather than later, but some form of bail-out sends the wrong message. Its definitely not Bradford's fault alone, and the whole of SL suffers (though not as much as Bradford obviously) from their going under...but the game needs a massive kick up the - in Nigel Wood's case a kick big enough to knock him somewhere over the other side of North Sea - and maybe this is it. Its kind of like Greece and the Euro, we're heading for a meltdown - if you can't see it, sorry you're blind. You can pluck figures out about increasing attendances, etc. and in that lies hope .... but the fact that nobody outside the local chippy wants to sponsor the game tells you what you really need to know about the path we're on. We need to wake up, take some pain if needed, but get some decent leadership with vision, plus vitally the ability to communicate, and put the game on the path to growth.

They would typically just wipe out all Bradford's fixtures, as if they never existed.

The problem with Leeds' extra fixture is an interesting one. The ONLY fair way to do it would be to remove all the Magic Weekend results. Having an unbalanced fixture list is another stupid idea by the RFL.

...and of course the NRL?

Well said!

Do people get a refund on season tickets for a game that they would no longer see? What happens about the lost revenue from away fans, people who buy game by game tickets who wont have a game to go to and also food and drinks sales losses?

Join the list of unsecured creditors.

Further ramifications of this, could teams fall foul of the salary cap as this budgeted income is no longer there? Also other teams who are more needy of money, could they fall foul of cash flow problems themselves as a result of missing a home game? Do teams fly so close to the wind for them to be affected by this?

The last time a club disapeared half way through a season was 1963 and it was Bradford Northern. The records for that season where "expunged" which means you just take out all the Bradford figures from the league table.

It would look like they where never in this year and I think if the worse comes to the worse that will be the way it will go. Season ticket holders will just be another creditor of the club and will not get anything back IF the club goes under.

The main thing we should all concentrate on is saving the Bradford club, that is the most important thing we can do. True many clubs are circling to get players and I am affraid that is all part of the process if it saves the club then it has to be done. They may have to go into the championship for a while, so be it the important thing is they survive to fight another day.

The Bulls are so unimportant the Broncos took them to Orient for a knock around.

All current season ticket holders would probably become unsecured creditors. If a Bradford NewCo was accepted into the League to finish the Bulls fixtures new tickets would have to be purchased for the remaining home games.

But would the RFL regulations allow a NewCo to step into the shoes of the old mid-season?