The same point I made above applies here (although on reflection you are correct about the grubber v a drop-kick making the ball slightly easier to control) and I am not saying you are right or wrong about when Sinfield struck the ball but come on, over analysing this event is nonsense! If Silverwood was not happy with the kick he should have made him take it again, but in a game where Silverwood was at best average and both Leeds and Saints scored tries that both should have been disallowed because of poor calls, then Sinfield's little kick is small beer... he caught Saints out with a little moment of quick thinking, that is all!

Yes, if week in week out we were seeing kickers taking quick drop-outs where they clearly were intended to gain a slight advantage by not kicking the ball quite correctly then I fully agree. But we are not are we mate!

The day you get "outsmarted" by Kevin Sinfield is the day you should take up knitting.

There's a simple question to ask yourself - was the "drop-out" that Sinfield gained an advantage from legal?

I'll give you a clue - if he kicked the ball before it had touched the floor, the answer is no.

I keep posting this, I have no idea whether Sinfield did or did not strike the ball before it touched the ground. I assume your opinion is that he did? So Silverwood got it wrong... just like several other decisions during the game, two of which lead to tries! Of all the poor calls that were made, this is the one I am least worried about. We lost, you won and that looked like a fair reflection of the game to me, despite two tries that should have been disallowed for both sides!

You did.

So move on.

Forget about it.


You have Wakey next. Leeds should beat them. They only win against really [upoor sides [/ulike Hull FC and Catalans.


Ah......

It is a good idea from the NRL to clamp down on these rules, it makes the game cleaner and ensures no tiny advantages can swing to one team.

The key word in all that is 'Drop-kick' something he didn't do.
You may call it a stupid pedantic comment but his kick was incorrect.

The sinfield one to me shouldnt have been a penalty, seemed fine to me I think some may being a bit harsh. But as a whole a bigger issue is when ( and it has happened several times already) the ball is dropped infront of the line clearly, however We dont have proper scrums anymore may as well add Dropouts to the list

Briers completely takes the push all the time

If the kicker crosses the line it should be a penalty on the 10 yard line in front of the sticks

If the player is unable to properly drop kick the ball it should be a penalty in front of the sticks

The ref should have a time limit of ten seconds from the drop kick being awarded to it being taken , or it should be a penalty in front of the sticks

For too long all these infringements have been ignored , time to tighten up

The scrum situation is very difficult to police , the whole point of having scrums now is to give the attacking team more room to potentially come up with more innovative attacking plays , but rarely does this happen , coaches it would seem don't want to exploit this situation ,

If he cannot do a proper ' drop kick ' he should be penalized , i'm sure he would manage it properly at the other end if it was the last minute of the GF and Leeds were drawing the game

As far as i can see he did do a propper drop out.

At least they could pretend to put the ball in the middle of the scrum rather than just handing the ball to the loose forward

I don't know , I didn't watch the game

Just out of interest who remembers the player who took a quick ' drop out ' and bounced the ball into touch , therefore getting possession at the scrum ?

Dont know?

I do



Or maybe the SL player that stripped the ball out of an opposition players hands over the try line to score a try ?

Co~k Tease

He didn't, he clearly kicked the ball before it hit the ground. Should have resulted in a penalty. To say, as some have done that they should take it again is nonsense.

The same ruling should apply when players take a 20m tap and aren't in the middle of the field, currently the ref allows them to take it again. Following this logic if a player messes the PTB up why not let him have another go?

NRL have the right idea in clamping down on the KO and drop-outs.

The ' tap ' rule should in my opinion be changed to be within the line of the posts , as otherwise it requires the player to run to the 20 yard line then turn to centralize himself , which is taking away the advantage to the attacking team , not forgetting that clubs don't put a mark where the tap should be taken from

Good point. A mark would be handy and there could be no complaints then.

Why would Lee Briers give a penalty against himself..

He wouldn't , he'd start doing it right , instead of cheating

Once again Briers steps 3 feet over the line for a drop out

Do you think it's a problem with him seeing white lines clearly?