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| Quote ="Mike87"We'll have to see won't we but it's all becoming rather repetitive isn't it,
"Why would Chase go to Salford he's getting the 2nd highest wage in the SL, he's married a Cas girl he loves Cas, he can't drive anyway." (the Cas fans said) Chase signed.
"Why would Hock go to Salford when he could go live in Australia and have a great life out there on the same money Salford offered him. (the Wigan fans said) Hock signed.
"Harrison Hansen Ha ha ha he'd never leave the double winners for Salford, Wigan are taking up and option of one more year anyway so no chance! ( also by the Wigan fans) well what you know Hansen signed Aswel.
All these expert accountants and agents on here have to realise that Koukash is well above Rugby League level in terms of expenditure, he's more on the level of a championship football chairman in terms of financial might so anyone who comes out with the old he won't go to Salford for this/that reason has to think Koukash has a lot to offer to a potential new player. £600million weath is off the scale compared to most RL and even RU owner/chairman. Salford are just very very lucky that he came in for them.'"
As i said, i've no doubt he's got the cash, but Burgess with his wage (in a salary cap thats nearly double ours) plus various high profile endorsements mean he's on a big whack there, and just compare Sydney life to anywhere in the North of England !
Big difference between players moving from other clubs in SL to Salford than leaving Sydney for Salford
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"As i said, i've no doubt he's got the cash, but Burgess with his wage (in a salary cap thats nearly double ours) plus various high profile endorsements mean he's on a big whack there, and just compare Sydney life to anywhere in the North of England !
Big difference between players moving from other clubs in SL to Salford than leaving Sydney for Salford'"
You just never know what Burgess might be thinking? He's been rumoured to be going to Bath RU,nodding realise bath at 40 degree summers and Snow White beaches? Listen this marquee allowance is off the cap
Anyway so Koukash could offer him a million a year to play for Salford and it wouldn't count on the cap. SBW is only on a million oz dollars a year so I can't see burgess being on more than that somehow.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"That's not what you said though. We can't replace these players easily, when they come back well into the end of their careers they were still top players.
Which player got most column intches last season?'"
Tbf to the poster, I read it as though he was saying the NRL can easily replace Burgess due to their production line, like he says here.
Quote If the NRL wanted it could pay way above anything the rfu could offer but they are not that stupid or desperate. They know they have a production line that will replace burgess easily'"
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Quote ="Mike87"We'll have to see won't we but it's all becoming rather repetitive isn't it,
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Question for Saint Simon - Would you rather see Sam sign for Bath or Salford? '
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Question for Saint Simon - Would you rather see Sam sign for Bath or Salford? ''"
Salford, 100%
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Salford, 100%'"
Right then get baking Marwan and plead to the RFL to bring though this marquee allowance!
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Has Sam Burgess officially commented on this yet?'"
His mummy deals with all his social media
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| Quote ="Mike87"Right then get baking Marwan and plead to the RFL to bring though this marquee allowance!'"
Its not Salford i don't think he'd come to, its any team in Superleague. Leeds, Wigan and Saints couldn't get him here, just my opinion of course.
It would be brilliant for Superleague and RL in this country if this could be pulled off, but i just don't honestly think it will
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Its not Salford i don't think he'd come to, its any team in Superleague. Leeds, Wigan and Saints couldn't get him here, just my opinion of course.
It would be brilliant for Superleague and RL in this country if this could be pulled off, but i just don't honestly think it will'"
I don't think Wigan, Saints or Leeds would pay the amount Sam would be asking for.
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| Neither will South Sydney that's the apparent problem why all this has started.
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| Quote ="Albion"Apparently Salford have said at an open day today that they have asked the RFL if they can go after Burgess.'"
Nothing was said about burgess! The doc said he has asked the RFL to allow special dispensation to go after a very very special player. People in the room were throwing names about SBW, Billy Slater, and Sam burgess. Noble said as a clue " his not currently playing in this country" no mention of any name came from noble or the docs lips. It's all pure speculation!
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| People are going on all about how RL in general, the England national side and Souths will be the losers in all this.
Wrong.
The only loser in all this will be Sam Burgess himself.
I actually feel sorry for the poor bloke. Sam Burgess is clearly not the sharpest tool in the box - let's make no mistake about it. Sam was just a reasonable footy player from somewhere in the north of England... probably a regular every day Yorkshire bloke.
Russell Crowe built him up to be this phenomenal RL player from England who was going to take the NRL by storm. He has exploited the whole family in order to draw attention to his club. You cant open a paper in Australia or turn on the telly without hearing about what Sammy or one of the other 'Burgii' has been up to. The media has been saturated with stories about them and their lives.
Yet when you peel away the facade the only thing that is really obvious is Sam is still the same reasonably good footy player from the north of England....but sadly he has started to believe his own hype...and when that happens you either have to be incredibly good at your craft or incredibly smart...sadly for Sam he is neither.
He seems to consider himself a 'media first, footy second' type of bloke....and that hasn't gone down well with some of his high profile team mates... including one extremely high profile player that made it very clear to Maguire that this nonsense cant go on.
According to various reports Sam copped a fine for missing training and spat his dummy out big time. Sam thinks he has grown bigger than arguably the biggest footy club name in Australia...and that is never going to happen.
So sadly it seems poor old Sam has backed himself into a corner. He has lost the support of many of the inner sanctum of the dressing room for his style of play that keeps getting him suspended, many of the same group are sick to death of the whole 'Burgii' thing and a lot of Souths fans now think that it would be best if he leaves.
So poor old Sam (the man who believes his own hype) is told that he is a shoe in for the England RU team...and despite never having played the game...takes the bait hook line and sinker and tells Maguire he wants out to try and be the next Sonny Bill or Izzy Folau... which is never going to happen.
The only loser in all of this will be Sam Burgess. Russell Crowe... you should hang your head in shame.
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| Kiwi Shane...
I must have been watching a different game when I tuned in for the semi against NZ. One of the most complete performances by a forward I've ever seen. All those NRL games I watched last year I must have missed the reasonable northerner. Maybe his performances were so average I never noticed him.
Get a grip mate.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Kiwi Shane...
I must have been watching a different game when I tuned in for the semi against NZ. One of the most complete performances by a forward I've ever seen. All those NRL games I watched last year I must have missed the reasonable northerner. Maybe his performances were so average I never noticed him.
Get a grip mate.'"
Good game against us in the semi. But one or 2 good games doesnt make a reasonably good player some kind of superman.
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| Quote ="salford sport"Nothing was said about burgess! The doc said he has asked the RFL to allow special dispensation to go after a very very special player. People in the room were throwing names about SBW, Billy Slater, and Sam burgess. Noble said as a clue " his not currently playing in this country" no mention of any name came from noble or the docs lips. It's all pure speculation!'"
How many bums on seats would burgess bring to Salford? Or slater or money bill for that matter?
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| Quote ="Kiwi Shane"People are going on all about how RL in general, the England national side and Souths will be the losers in all this.
Wrong.
The only loser in all this will be Sam Burgess himself.
I actually feel sorry for the poor bloke. Sam Burgess is clearly not the sharpest tool in the box - let's make no mistake about it. Sam was just a reasonable footy player from somewhere in the north of England... probably a regular every day Yorkshire bloke.
Russell Crowe built him up to be this phenomenal RL player from England who was going to take the NRL by storm. He has exploited the whole family in order to draw attention to his club. You cant open a paper in Australia or turn on the telly without hearing about what Sammy or one of the other 'Burgii' has been up to. The media has been saturated with stories about them and their lives.
Yet when you peel away the facade the only thing that is really obvious is Sam is still the same reasonably good footy player from the north of England....but sadly he has started to believe his own hype...and when that happens you either have to be incredibly good at your craft or incredibly smart...sadly for Sam he is neither.
He seems to consider himself a 'media first, footy second' type of bloke....and that hasn't gone down well with some of his high profile team mates... including one extremely high profile player that made it very clear to Maguire that this nonsense cant go on.
According to various reports Sam copped a fine for missing training and spat his dummy out big time. Sam thinks he has grown bigger than arguably the biggest footy club name in Australia...and that is never going to happen.
So sadly it seems poor old Sam has backed himself into a corner. He has lost the support of many of the inner sanctum of the dressing room for his style of play that keeps getting him suspended, many of the same group are sick to death of the whole 'Burgii' thing and a lot of Souths fans now think that it would be best if he leaves.
So poor old Sam (the man who believes his own hype) is told that he is a shoe in for the England RU team...and despite never having played the game...takes the bait hook line and sinker and tells Maguire he wants out to try and be the next Sonny Bill or Izzy Folau... which is never going to happen.
The only loser in all of this will be Sam Burgess. Russell Crowe... you should hang your head in shame.'"
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| Quote ="Kiwi Shane"People are going on all about how RL in general, the England national side and Souths will be the losers in all this.
Wrong.
The only loser in all this will be Sam Burgess himself.
I actually feel sorry for the poor bloke. Sam Burgess is clearly not the sharpest tool in the box - let's make no mistake about it. Sam was just a reasonable footy player from somewhere in the north of England... probably a regular every day Yorkshire bloke.
Russell Crowe built him up to be this phenomenal RL player from England who was going to take the NRL by storm. He has exploited the whole family in order to draw attention to his club. You cant open a paper in Australia or turn on the telly without hearing about what Sammy or one of the other 'Burgii' has been up to. The media has been saturated with stories about them and their lives.
Yet when you peel away the facade the only thing that is really obvious is Sam is still the same reasonably good footy player from the north of England....but sadly he has started to believe his own hype...and when that happens you either have to be incredibly good at your craft or incredibly smart...sadly for Sam he is neither.
He seems to consider himself a 'media first, footy second' type of bloke....and that hasn't gone down well with some of his high profile team mates... including one extremely high profile player that made it very clear to Maguire that this nonsense cant go on.
According to various reports Sam copped a fine for missing training and spat his dummy out big time. Sam thinks he has grown bigger than arguably the biggest footy club name in Australia...and that is never going to happen.
So sadly it seems poor old Sam has backed himself into a corner. He has lost the support of many of the inner sanctum of the dressing room for his style of play that keeps getting him suspended, many of the same group are sick to death of the whole 'Burgii' thing and a lot of Souths fans now think that it would be best if he leaves.
So poor old Sam (the man who believes his own hype) is told that he is a shoe in for the England RU team...and despite never having played the game...takes the bait hook line and sinker and tells Maguire he wants out to try and be the next Sonny Bill or Izzy Folau... which is never going to happen.
The only loser in all of this will be Sam Burgess. Russell Crowe... you should hang your head in shame.'"
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| Burgess out played Money Bill in RLWC 2013 Semi and he would probably be a more effective inside centre at RU than what England have currently got with Twelvetrees.... Whether he becomes World Class as he is now at RL is another question.
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| Haven't people noticed that Sam Burgess sees himself in some kind of competition with Sonny Bill Williams for the title of Golden Boy of World Rugby (both codes)? Sam Burgess is constantly measuring his status against SBW's. That is why he going to RU. He wants to chase SBW all over the park and smash him into the ground. He can't do that again after this year if he stays in rugby league.
Meanwhile anyone seriously interested in the game of rugby league ought to watch the opening game of the NRL season: Sydney Roosters vs South Sydney Rabbitohs on Thursday March 6th. Watch Burgess try to smash SBW at every opportunity -- in attack and defence. I am going to be interested to see how many times Burgess gets penalised for illegal and perhaps dirty play, and if he gets sent off. SBW is cool, calm and collected. He might even laugh at Burgess and Burgess will get even more angry.
In short, Sam Burgess has a complex about SBW.
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| Sam Burgess wants to be Sonny Bill... but the reality is he isn't really fit to lace the great mans boots. Sam Burgess could play until he is 100 and he would still never be part of a side that wins a grand final or a rugby world cup.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Haven't people noticed that Sam Burgess sees himself in some kind of competition with Sonny Bill Williams for the title of Golden Boy of World Rugby (both codes)? Sam Burgess is constantly measuring his status against SBW's. That is why he going to RU. He wants to chase SBW all over the park and smash him into the ground. He can't do that again after this year if he stays in rugby league.
Meanwhile anyone seriously interested in the game of rugby league ought to watch the opening game of the NRL season: Sydney Roosters vs South Sydney Rabbitohs on Thursday March 6th. Watch Burgess try to smash SBW at every opportunity -- in attack and defence. I am going to be interested to see how many times Burgess gets penalised for illegal and perhaps dirty play, and if he gets sent off. SBW is cool, calm and collected. He might even laugh at Burgess and Burgess will get even more angry.
In short, Sam Burgess has a complex about SBW.'"
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| Quote ="Kiwi Shane"Sam Burgess wants to be Sonny Bill... but the reality is he isn't really fit to lace the great mans boots. Sam Burgess could play until he is 100 and he would still never be part of a side that wins a grand final or a rugby world cup.'"
Hmmmmmm. Williams played 4 minutes of the 2011 RUWC final and might as well have played less in last years league final. What a god awful display from the kiwis, as much as the semi final was an absolute classic, let's not get carried away about the kiwi performance. There was only two pieces of incredible skill, and a high degree of luck in NZ's first try, that kept you in the game, let alone won it for you. The reason why New Zealand were so bad in the final is down to the pounding they got from England.
Kiwi Shane, you need to take your head out of your arrogant national sport pages. You threw everything at England, and had it returned in more than equal measure.
As for Sam Burgess, Utube is full of him and George smashing New Zealand forwards all over the pitch. Type in fun fui moi moi if you don't believe me. Google will also bring it up. Now, just to be clear, I'm not saying Sam is better than SBW, I actually believe the latter is more likely to be a successful inside centre, but Sam hits as hard as any forward there has been in the professional game, he runs excellent lines from deep and has exceptional footwork for such a big man.
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| Quote ="LincolnDEVILSFan"The reason why New Zealand were so bad in the final is down to the pounding they got from England.'"
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Please don't try and argue otherwise, as good as Australia were, NZ were equally as bad. They were a poor relative of the side that turned up snarling at England the week before. If you don't think your boys were completely broken, then they must have completely lost their bottle on the big occasion!!!
Seriously, you need to get your opinions somewhere other than the New Zealand sports pages.
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