On what do you base this statement ?

Bit presumptuous that Leigh are going to win every game this season aren't you?

Both London and Bradford will struggle next year, not in any danger of relegation. But it won't be a walk in the park.

The exodus has started at both clubs, and the rebuild will have to be done with long term in mind. Add to that the sides building year on year down in the championship, there'll be a few who are much stronger.

As we found, after years at the top. Going down everyone goes that extra 10% to beat you. In RL the side who wants it more invariably wins. This will cost the two relegated teams a couple of weeks.

Landlord doesn't want us, owner clueless and teenage signings mixed with overweight Salford rejects.......and that's the tip of the iceberg!

As Dettoriman has said, you have to take into account how "pumped up" sides will be when they play you (and that's before their pitches are mysteriously narrowed and their wings are heavily watered

). They will play hard,tough, and dirty even at the expense of being knackered the week after. You'll end up with more injuries than you might expect and that could cost you.

The chance to "have a go" at an ex SL side will drive teams on. Unfortunately for you some (and I stress "some"icon_wink.gif of your fans in the glory days were a tad obnoxious, as was a past chairman.

I speak from experience, it all happened to Keighley in their brief glory years of the mid 90's. Just type "Keighley v Batley fight 1994" into google and go to "that" video site. It's the elbow to the head that sends Brendan Hill OTT. Enjoy

I've no doubt it will be tough next year. I certainly don't think we'll bounce straight back up. We've some excellent young players coming through, however they will be raw ad inexperienced and will probably find life difficult next year. Long term it will benefit us as we get rid of the shirkers on big contracts.

People look down on the Championship but there are several teams that, if given the same level of funding, would be a match for several SL teams. Next year at least two of those teams are going to have similar levels of funding. We shall see what happens.

Btw, getting back on topic best post I have seen on the topic over on the Featherstone TotalRL forum :-

That is a very good piece and that best and most believable one I have seen on the subject. Wednesday's supporters meeting will be interesting.

The thing is, if I was an investor and the guy who I had hired to find a good investment for me suggested a RL club, I would kick him into touch immediately!

I suppose if said investor could get his hands on a large portion of land by associating himself with an RL club you might think differently?

I'm not sure that RL club and "Investor" go together.
Has anyone ever gained financially from owning a professional sports club ?

Who sold Man U to the glazers?

It's probably just a PR stunt to get some more media attention, he'll be back in the club in a few days.

Probiz's "investors" don't do it to make money, they do it to lose a pre-ordained amount of money. Probiz's main business is tax avoidance schemes where making a loss somewhere can be very advantageous elsewhere.

I fail to see what relevance this has to be honest, but, the Glazers thought United were undervalued like the Irish racehorse owners before them and the banks must have agreed also as they bought the Club on debt forced upon the Club.

The incorrectly vilified CEO David Gill (top bloke btw) had a legal duty to report various Glazer bids to the Shareholders who ultimately accepted what was effectively a hostile take over when the price per share reached a certain level. I'm no expert, but, once a percentage of shares are bought it triggers a must bid for all remaining shares. United were saddled with a debt with interest that they didn't have previously as well as the family taking out pots of cash for themselves for all their 'hard work' and hopefully a rising share price so if they ever did sell it would be for silly money, share price drops sit tight take out your divvie.

I don't think that RL is based on the same financial base model, so the idea of leverage and investors and debt and syphoning off money is a big ask even in Featherstone, although I get the point about the supposed investment being turned into a loan and then someone runs off with money from Sky.....there's not much growth potential relatively speaking and people could see it for the scam it would be as it is more than likely based on an instant return rather than a long term plan.

I suppose that explains the 13 or more 'dissolved companies' in his Companies House records

The relevance was to the question before mine.

It certainly was having read it

I used similar "investigative" research in looking into Ryan Whitcut of Bradford Bills fame. I was told I was wrong about him........no need to remind me how that panned out for the Bills.

As for "investing" in RL and losing money.......David Hughes at London is the example on which the book should be based......2 million + a year between 2008 and 2013........I reckon it's over 13 million he's flushed down the toilet with nothing other than a couple of youngsters who may (or may not) go on to greater things. People don't "invest" in sports club and they certainly shouldn't ever expect to see any of their cash back again.

2,500,000 is the figure needed to be able to spend to the cap in SL2/Championship next year (depending on which version of the rules yet to be agreed you believe)......at 20 notes a ticket and based on 15 home games including making the middle 8 and getting 4 more home ties that's an 8,333 average attendance.......SKY cash and sponsors etc may reduce that by 50% but the reality is that even top end championship clubs are 3k fans short of having a snowballs chance of competing with the top tier.....
...best chance of going up after this year is if Wakefield go tits up or the Dr gets bored at Salford.

Minimum ' step up ' level is around where Widnes were 3 years ago, averaging close to 4,000 ,even after moving up and having shown improvements their crowds havent grown that much

But the opportunity is there

Never say never......well, almost never

An interesting summary of last nights fans meeting here :- www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... m-tonight/

An interesting summary of last nights fans meeting here :- www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... m-tonight/

The main thing is that everything seems to be sorted out - good luck for the future.

It all seems a little bit like...."and its all fixed, just like that". After all that fuss is it really that simple??