Salford to win the challenge and finish as high as 5th!
The team that avoided relegation by the skin of their teeth and have signed hardly any new players.

Indeed. As much as we have been enjoying 2014-2016 and have come a long way as a club and a team, we need to go one better next year.
For me, this is is either winning to Challenge Cup or finishing in the top 4 (I know we finished 4th in 2014, but this was before the current play-off system).
Our goal has to be to win some silverware within the next two years.

The same team that were top eight without the points deduction and the subsequent de-motivation, tell me your prediction of us finishing last comes from the heart rather than the head ?

Maybe we have a settled squad rather than changing a dozen or so players, I mean you should know all about a settled squad most of your side have been there donkeys years, and on that point you finished ninth and how many signings have you made ?

I think you're twisting words now.

No one has said Leeds are done and no one said Leeds will finish bottom. Just that we don't feel that they are as strong as they were. But most of us are predicting Leeds to finish further up the table, just not as a top 4 side.

Saints
Wigan
Hull
Warrington
Widnes
Leeds
Cas
Catalans
Wakefield
Leigh
Salford
Huddersfield

is that after sandow quit?

Wigan
Leeds
Saints
Cas
Warrington
Salford
Catalan
Hull
Widnes
Huddersfield
Leigh
Wakefield

CC Leeds
GF Wigan

Wigan
Warrington
Cas
Hull
Leeds
Saints
Widnes
Catalans
Hudds
Leigh
Wakefield
Salford

CC - Saints
GF - Warrington

1. Wigan - Starters returning and fringe players benefiting from a load of game time in 2016 bodes well. Swapping Smith for Leuluai should improve us plenty.
2. Hull FC - Backing them to kick on where they left off given that they have retained much of the same squad.
3. Castleford - Powell is a great coach and I reckon he has been given the right tools this year.
4. Warrington - This Sandow situation to hit their form early in the season, then either Patton or a mid season signing to find form later on, sending them into the play offs in top form.
5. Leeds - Determination to not repeat last season will improve them but I think they will struggle for leadership whenever Maguire and Burrow are missing, and at 33 and 34 that will be quite often.
6. Widnes - Same old.
7. St Helens - Don't rate their squad. Cunningham to get the sack after 10 games or so.
8. Les Catalans - They will look good when they are in the mood, but the journeymen won't have the heart when it gets tough. They really didn't look bothered when we played them at the end of the regular season.
9. Leigh - A credible start to their SL campaign. They will pick up some scalps early then struggle later with the reality of facing SL opposition every week.
10. Huddersfield - Not sure what would change to propel them higher
11. Wakefield - Same old
12. Salford - Can't help but feel the wheels might come off a bit. Binning off the academy wasn't a good sign.

No Segeyaro and I think Leeds could be scrapping around 7th/8th/9th, with Segeyaro and I agree with your 5th prediction. Having your 1,6,7 & 9 made up from Burrow, Lilley, Sutcliffe, Golding & McGuire isn't great.

Don't think this will be too far off, two stand out though, Hull and Salford, is be amazed if we finished as low as 8th, squad and team this year is stronger than last year, so don't think we will be far off top4. I just don't see it with Salford, I know before the points deduction they would have made the top 8, but there form as the end of the year was poor and very lucky to still be in SL, nothing added for this season in terms of recruitment either. Unless they sign, doubt they will make the 8, certainty not top 6.

Segayaro linked with replacing Ben Barba at Cronulla maybe?

Will be difficult without the best ever import to SL, who they are now not bothered is leaving. Funny that.

How would Segeyaro (a hooker) replace Barba (a fullback)? The Sharks are no doubt interested. We shall have to see. Right now I'd agree that our squad looks pretty ordinary in key positions, and the only one with a major plus mark is hooker, so to lose Segeyaro would be an enormous blow.

Soz - I meant Mick Ennis. Not Barba.

I agree.
The top 4 will be Wigan, Warrington, Hull FC and Saints but, not necessarily in that order.
If Wigan have McIllorum and Sam Tomkins fit, they will take some stopping.
Also, Leeds dont look any better than mid table, its hard to see them going from 9th ? to top 4 and with little recruitment.
Maguire will be even slower and although their youngsters will be older and wiser, it would be a hell of a turn around.

Salford look destined for a bottom 4 finish unless they unveil some superstars.

1.Wigan - Hard to see past them for LLS, good squad and bloody minded determination will see them through

2.Warrington - Will challenge hard for LLS & other silverware, but as usual will bottle it.

3.Hull - I like this Hull outfit, monstrous pack and skilled backs will see them finish on a lofty perch

4.Saints - Undecided about Saints but think they will just pip Cas to 4th spot in the end.

5.Cas - Pains me to say it but they have a great chance of doing something this year if they can avoid injury.

6.Catalan - Solid, if not spectacular season for Les Cats, not quite good enough to trouble the big boys

7.Leeds - Were awful last year,I don't see that being repeated despite losing Segeyaro,squad too good to remain botttom 4

8.Wakefield - Recruited well in Williams and getting Fifita back, coupled with King Kear, another top 8 looms for Wakey

9.Huddersfield - Decent outfit and could easily swap with Wakey, Back line is decent, Losing Goldilocks will hurt them

10.Salford - Again, some decent players in there but with Griffin going, they are definitely lacking some X factor for me

11.Widnes - The 2 man band to be found out this year, although potential to do much better if they can avoid injuries

12.Leigh - Newly promoted and 1st 5 fixtures containing Leeds, Saints and Wire will knock any wind out of their sails

They still do in Fryston!!

12.Leigh - Newly promoted and 1st 5 fixtures containing Leeds, Saints and Wire will knock any wind out of their sails'"

He only played half the season and only played well in half the games he did play. It's no great loss.

Sounds familiar

You attend the meeting? How's the 5 year plan?

Hi jig monkey. I see you are still obsessed. Are you still banned as well?

Think so, not tried in a while, are you banned from the bin dippers board still? Heard the big concert/gig is going to save the club? 2nd year of the big plan. Laughing stock.

Why are you such a bell end?