Scott Taylor needs to be in there, gives it 100% every game. Internationals tend to be about desire as much as skill, look at the England football team as an example. Shiiiite and they don't care.

Sam looks a lot lighter this year.

Burgess slimmed down to play centres in RU, and hasn't had an off-season to build himself back up. I'd be surprised if he wasn't a fair bit bigger next year.

www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... -to-injury Sad news that Reed has had to call it a day.

www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... -to-injury Sad news that Reed has had to call it a day.

Widdop and the Burgess's seasons ended last week, and Graham's could be over this weekend, they have a long wait for the tournament to start at the end of October.

It would be good if they were able to be loaned out to any Super League club that could accommodate them.

They put a stop to that a good few years back and rightly so.

Brown's name has been mentioned, not a huge amount, but some. Any consideration about him at all should go out the window as he was shocking against us tonight.

Not ineffective against a beaten pack, he was just bad, standing and trying to throw long passes that were either forward it in to touch.

He was garbage

Hodgson looked to get a fairly serious ankle injury this morning. If he's going to miss games Houghton should take his place.

Just watching the start of the Leigh giants game, giants fans, can we stop complaining when ppl don't include cudjoe and macgillveray in their England teams, thanks

just basing these two on one bad game then? dont other players have bad games...

I was actually basing it on the opening 3 minutes, never mind the game.

well done

No one would ever get picked then if you judge players on a few bad moments, Sam Tomkins wouldn't get a look in for Hemel stags if that as the case, never mind England.

exactly

now shaul or tomkins for england full back?!

I would still have Hall and McGillvary on the wings without doubt. Proven class at the top level, and both are great at bringing the ball back which is what we will need in these matches. Only Manfredi was challenging them imo but obviously he is ruled out.

agreed

Hall is living on borrowed time IMO - did nowt last year against the Kiwis. Joe Burgess had a more than decent end to the season for Souths...

He did the usual graft of returning the ball with interest as he normally does getting his forwards on the front foot, the stuff that is missed or taken for granted by some but is a vital part of wing play especially at international level. I recall Burgess struggled a bit in that regard against the kiwis and was replaced by McGillvary who is also very good in that area. Hard to criticise any winger in that series too as it was very forward and defence orientated and the wings saw little, if any attacking ball or clear chances.

I saw that Cunningham had tipped Lomax for England fullback, and I think I agree.

Tomkins, as I saw at the KCOM on Friday, is spent. He seems to have no confidence, his pace and step seems to have gone. The best thing going for him at the moment is his link up play as an additional pivot, but even that isn't executed as well as it used to be.

Shaul - despite me being a Hull fan, I don't think he has the all round game needed at international level. Great season, safe in defence, awesome pace and finishing, but doesn't have the skill or awareness to be a threat vs NZ/Aus.

Hardaker - similar to Shaul in that he;s lacking the ball-handling part of his game. Not sure how he's getting on in Aus, but I assume he won't be in Bennett's thoughts.


Yeh, I'd go with Lomax and probably Ratchford in the squad.

^^^^^

Yeah, i was all for sticking by Tomkins but i do feel he could with a good pre season with Wigan to get back to his best. I guess Wigan fans would feel the same.

I would have Hardaker in the squad for sure. Great cover guy for the three quarters and is the reason he is on the interchange bench for Penrith now.

He could be an option at centre, as we're looking a bit weak there at the moment.

Agree with all the above. Lomax has done fantastically well considering injuries too. For me we do need Hall and McGilvray two best available to bring the ball back. Burgess was quite inneffective. Apart from Saturday i'd have Cudjoe in too partnership with Jerry and to be fair not been many better this year

O'Loughlin is expected back before the end of the season, but Wane is unsure whether he will be available to lead England in the autum.

Wane says he will hold talks with club chairman Ian Lenagan, rugby director Kris Radlinski and himself before making a decision.

"We'll have a chat with him in the next week or so about how we take it forward," Wane told the Wigan Evening Post. "That's a joint decision between Ian, Kris, myself and Sean.

"I love the international game, but the most important thing for me is this club."

If O'Loughlin is back before the end of the season and therefore not injured Wane should not be able to block him playing for England. Wane should face a disciplinary for this for me.