thanks for that.
i thought it was another french franchise.

really, were you really under a different impression.

Did it never cross your mind as to why Super League is administered by Super League (europe) Ltd and EVERY othe RFL competition is administered by the RFL?

did you never wonder about the difference? did you never take in that when people said that Super League was a European competition what they meant was Super League was a European competition?

has the penny really only just dropped?

yes, but that is massively different thing. You are trying to connect two points where there is clearly not connection. Good Luck with that

Because it isnt in the English league structure. Think back to '96, SL is a breakaway league formed as a European League, with the stated focus on being a European League with a structure and history of European clubs.

The Championship is in the English League structure, this has never changed. SL did, back in '96.

The Championship is now, what the Stones bitter Championship was back in '95.

This isnt supposed to be patronising, but look into it, there is hugely different structure to SL than the championships.

SL was removed from the RFL in the same way the EPL was removed from the Football League. It is simply in our game the RFL does the same job as both the FA and the Football League, and SL has delegated some powers back to the RFL. However it is still fundamentally different to the championships in its organisation.

It has also a stated aim of being a European League, basically they have said thats what they are. A European Super League. Unlike the Championships.

Just another hairy crack , keep digging all you want , you'll not change the facts , call it what you want , it doesn't change what it is

indeed it doesnt. Thats why is a European league

Super League is not administered by Super League (Europe) Ltd.

Super League (Europe) Ltd is merely a holding company, a vehicle for the distribution of money among SL clubs. It has no administrative powers whatsoever.

Plus, funnily enough, the one club that would make it European (as opposed to British) doesn't actually hold a share in the company.

Whichever way you look at it SL is a British competition governed by the British governing body. The French team participate by invitation, which could be revoked at any time.

Exactly the same as the Championship leagues in fact.

course theres a connection if the RFL have been given money for years for grass roots development before the 30mil they've just been given by sport england then that means its the RFL who are respossible for the devolopment of RL in london and not the london club.

Or not it would seem , so it is in fact an English league with guests , just as the Championship is

Keep digging

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No I didn't.
The European comp was in relation to the clubs OUTSIDE SL. You've totally misunderstood my post.

The SL would be as it is now, 12 English clubs, 1 Welsh club and 1 French club. The RFL control who the 12 English clubs are. The WRL control who the 1 Welsh club entered is. And the FFR13 control who the French club is. The RFL could use a P&R method to decide their 12 clubs.
Every so many years, review how many clubs from each federation are in (i.e. whether to increase France to 2 teams) etc.

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Says who? And why is there a Welsh team and a French team in this English pyramid?

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No, I mean an independent body that isn't looking after the best interest of their own club.

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Franchise decisions aren't always in the best interest of the club or the league either. They're the opinions of a few people which aren't always for the best interests of everyone. At least with P&R it is up to the clubs to stay in SL.

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Yes, they would also be relegated.
And yes, if they know the rules they can't complain.


Because you could have a protected conference with your expansion clubs, and the rest of conferences having P&R.

We are the priests of the temples of Syrinx
Our great computers fill the hallowed halls
We are the priests of the temples of Syrinx
All the gifts of life are held within our walls.

its one of the other usernames used by a poster on this thread.

ive counted about 5 user names hes got.

How embarrassing, have you been drinking?

Not at all.

This is the favourite Rush lyrics thread isn't it?

It wouldn't have been so bad if it hadn't been Rush.

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Happy now?

I doubt he's into Hawkwind either.

no it wasnt, in'96 SL completely broke away from the RFL and was completely independent of the RFL. In 2002 some powers were devolved back to the RFL but SL is still independant of the british RL pyramid (though no longer the RFL).

SL didnt replace the Stones bitter championship. It usurped it. The Stones bitter championship is now the Championship. SL is over and above that.

One league is the top tier of the english RL system, one is above that.
One has a stated aim of being a European League, one hasnt.
One leagues fans celebrate its European aspect, One leagues fans bitch and moan and whine about theirs.

The point I am making, to clear it up a bit. In a European League, the championships have no more right to automatic promotion, than the clubs in the french elite, or any other league which is top of their countries respective pyramids.

jeeze you make me ashamed to be an expansionist with stuff like that

and dont toulose play in the championship too?

why is this better than what we have now?



what if the RFL dont want to use P+R? are they allowed to use the same method as the french and welsh? do the french and welsh need to run it by the RFL if they do decide to make a change? Should the RFL confirm everything with the FFR13 and WRL when they relegate and promote a team? what if the FFR13 and WRL dont really want to admit the team that would get promoted can they refuse?

A french team to pander to the flatcappers. A welsh team for the same reason cardiff, swansea and wrexham play in the english Football League

why would SL chairman create, vote for, and devolve power to an independent body whose sole criteria is to not act in the best interests of their clubs?

they are at least an attempt to be in the best interests of the league and clubs. At least it is an effort to do what is right rather than leaving it in the lap of the gods and hoping for the best like p+R


just because you know the rules doesnt mean they arent stupid rules.


that would be ridiculous, and pointless. We have got rid of P+R for a reason. it wont come back for more reasons.

when the other trolls point out what your posting is complete rubbish, you should just give up

you make me ashamed to be human. You make me think maybe Darwin was wrong.

you cause a lot of damage to the expansionist cause, which makes me think you arent a real expansionist, just more intent on winding up people whose clubs arent in SL whilst yours is.

from you, thats quite nice.