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| Quote ="Dunbar"You do realise that for the piece you underlined the poster was talking about the live Sky games on Friday evening and not the Quins home games which are usually scheduled for a Saturday or Sunday afternoon kick off (less than 25% of Quins home games are Friday evening fixtures)?'"
exactly...i am saying the more casual observer is enjoying the product on the telly. what quins need to do is encourage them down to the stoop on a saturday or a sunday. but, having more kids and amateurs playing, and more tv observers, then there is the potential for it to happen. quins need to tap into it, and this is the problem area, as they don't seem to be able to
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| Since professional RL was re-introduced to London in the 80s the team has found homes (in no particular order) at:
Craven Cottage
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The Stoop
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The Valley
Why would anyone think the answer to the poor support is yet another move?
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| One day, and it may be a long long time away, the penny will drop that Superleague , along with quite a few other sports is about EYES ON THE BOX and sod all with who goes through the turnstiles.
Sky couldn't care less simply because they don't anything from it.
What they do get is a big wad of cash from advertisers, and subscribers the length and breadth of the country who watch and are very interested in the game (contrary to misheld BBC beliefs).
If Sky were not making money from SL then they wouldn't pay for it.
The largest "market " is London so if they are getting the figures for viewing there and the subscriptions that they want, is it a failure?
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| Looking on the website the cheapest ticket to go and watch Harlequins is £15.
Thats £15 for a poorer quality seat (the most expensive ones are £30 so the website says)
This will be similar to your view (probably with the same amount of spectators there too)
If you want to save money (and you have a laptop) why not open the image above, go outside in your garden (alone), sit on an uncomfortable plastic garden chair and look at the above photo for 80 mins whilst drinking a warm can of Morrisons 3% proof lager and getting your neighbours 3 small children to shout 'We are quins RL' over the fence at you once every 10 mins. Thats about as exciting as a trip to the stoop on Quins RL day is.
Why fork out £15 (not including bus/train/tube fares if you live in London) to sit in an empty stadium where you can hear a pin drop (in an uncovered seat thats not on the halfway line) watching poor quality rugby league when you can watch games on Sky (dare I say ones that involve better and more interesting sides than Quins to watch) for the price of a couple of pints in a pub?
Its a vicious circle. No one goes because the atmosphere is so poor and the atmosphere is so poor because no one goes. And the reason no one goes is because 1. The team are useless and 2. There is no atmosphere.
Sorry but those are the facts.
Quins RU are playing Leicester Tigers today at 5:30.
You look and see how many people turn up for that.....despite the game also being shown live on Skysports 2 (Coverage starts at 5pm)
They will get more fans for one game than Quins RL will get for 4....at least
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| l know they have moved, and again, and again, but what was the deal that posessed them to put a RL club in the epi of Union, the sooner they move again the better.
A post on their board some time ago, mutted Leyton Orient, Eastenders,
a bit more down to earth than "good old Twickers" what what.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"One day, and it may be a long long time away, the penny will drop that Superleague , along with quite a few other sports is about EYES ON THE BOX and sod all with who goes through the turnstiles.
Sky couldn't care less simply because they don't anything from it.
What they do get is a big wad of cash from advertisers, and subscribers the length and breadth of the country who watch and are very interested in the game (contrary to misheld BBC beliefs).
If Sky were not making money from SL then they wouldn't pay for it.
The largest "market " is London so if they are getting the figures for viewing there and the subscriptions that they want, is it a failure?'"
This argument that RL needs a London club because of Sky's advertising revenue is oft quoted but never substantiated. Are you saying that Quins have a massive armchair following and were they to disappear the number of people watching RL on Sky would crash with the resulting withdrawal of Sky's coverage and their cash? Do people in the South only watch RL on Sky because there is a London club involved? Is there a jump in the viewing figures when Quins are on?
Living in the South I have as great a wish as anyone for RL to succeed outside the heartlands but I'd say the value of Quins is over-hyped.
Incidentally I only know one born and bred Southern RL fan where I live & he supports Leeds despite the fact that he's never been to Headingly.
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| Quote ="boomer"l know they have moved, and again, and again, but what was the deal that posessed them to put a RL club in the epi of Union, the sooner they move again the better.
A post on their board some time ago, mutted Leyton Orient, Eastenders,
a bit more down to earth than "good old Twickers" what what.'"
Presumably the same logic that was used to put Crusaders in a country where the national game is RU.
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| But again, those Taffs are pretty similar to us flatcappers, EX miners etc. those Toffs down Richmond way, when ever l,ve been there, seem very picky. better off darn the old Eastend
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| Shepherds Bush seems the logical choice for RL due to all of the antipods living in the area. Q.P.R. are rumoured to be looking for a new stadium, why not jump in bed with them, get in their current ground and move with them?
Otherwise, the Olympic Stadium won't be being used in the summer either.
Either way, I think London Broncos has the best identity for the club.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Looking on the website the cheapest ticket to go and watch Harlequins is £15.
Thats £15 for a poorer quality seat (the most expensive ones are £30 so the website says)
This will be similar to your view (probably with the same amount of spectators there too)
![](http://www.rbs6nations.com/images/news/TwickenhamStoop.jpg)
If you want to save money (and you have a laptop) why not open the image above, go outside in your garden (alone), sit on an uncomfortable plastic garden chair and look at the above photo for 80 mins whilst drinking a warm can of Morrisons 3% proof lager and getting your neighbours 3 small children to shout 'We are quins RL' over the fence at you once every 10 mins. Thats about as exciting as a trip to the stoop on Quins RL day is.
Why fork out £15 (not including bus/train/tube fares if you live in London) to sit in an empty stadium where you can hear a pin drop (in an uncovered seat thats not on the halfway line) watching poor quality rugby league when you can watch games on Sky (dare I say ones that involve better and more interesting sides than Quins to watch) for the price of a couple of pints in a pub?
Its a vicious circle. No one goes because the atmosphere is so poor and the atmosphere is so poor because no one goes. And the reason no one goes is because 1. The team are useless and 2. There is no atmosphere.
Sorry but those are the facts.
Quins RU are playing Leicester Tigers today at 5:30.
[uYou look and see how many people turn up for that.....despite the game also being shown live on Skysports 2 (Coverage starts at 5pm)
They will get more fans for one game than Quins RL will get for 4....at least[/u'"
Over 14,000.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Over 14,000.'"
Make a point Barry. Instead of just stating the obvious.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Make a point [uBarry[/u. Instead of just stating the obvious.'"
Dave.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Shepherds Bush seems the logical choice for RL due to all of the antipods living in the area. Q.P.R. are rumoured to be looking for a new stadium, why not jump in bed with them, get in their current ground and move with them?
Otherwise, the Olympic Stadium won't be being used in the summer either.
Either way, I think London Broncos has the best identity for the club.'"
What would Quins bring to the table with regards to QPR's new stadium? it's not like QPR are short of a few quid and also they are quite likely to be playing in the Premier League next year.
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| That's true, but I think if stadiums are going to be used all year round they arn't as expensive to run. What about the Olympic Stadium? Too big? Either way I think where they are playing now and naming themselves Harlequins is and has been a mistake and I want success for London RL.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"That's true, but I think if stadiums are going to be used all year round they arn't as expensive to run. What about the Olympic Stadium? Too big? Either way I think where they are playing now and naming themselves Harlequins is and has been a mistake and I want success for London RL.'"
Are you [size=150SERIOUSLY[/size suggesting a London based professional RL side play their home fixtures at the Olympic stadium???
Oh my god.
WHY??
have you been eating those British Rail cheese sandwiches again?
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| A lot of people say how many kids are playing the game. The same goes for my local non league soccer club they have hundreds of kids that turn out every week and play. How many go and watch the senior team about 5.
I've always said that the Quins branding is wrong. its doesnt target those union fans who like league but support wasps or someone else.
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| Quote ="dids858"A lot of people say how many kids are playing the game. The same goes for my local non league soccer club they have hundreds of kids that turn out every week and play. How many go and watch the senior team about 5.
I've always said that the Quins branding is wrong. its doesnt target those union fans who like league but support wasps or someone else.'"
I agree, London Broncos was a brand that everyone knew. I just wish that someone would come along like Richard Branson did years ago and really promote the club, find them a permenant home and stick with them for a long time.
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| Like Richard Branson? Walk away and leave them with a massive debt generated during his ownership, which the successors spent years paying off before the outstanding bit to HMRC caught up with them? Yep, that's the way forward.
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| I wouldn’t want Richard Branson anywhere near our sport ever again or anyone similar to him for that matter. He’s nothing but a self-promoting turd whose interest was anything but helping rugby league. Just like his interest is anything but helping (start-up Britain) new businesses.
If he could get it cheap, our top flight would be called Virgin Super League. But he’s getting much cheaper (probably free) publicity for his company from the government.
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| Are there "more than 100 clubs" in London?
There's been people on here involved with promoting RL in schools in London complaining that the players are lost to RU because there's no clubs nearby for them to go to. That argument seems a bit weakened if there's actually over 100 in the capital to play at.
It all sounds encouraging anyway. I agree with some others on here if SL in London is so important to the sport then it should be given more support by the RFL, should be exempt from the Franchise bidding process (along with Crusaders) and really worked on the ensure it's sustainability. Before that though, I'd like to see some kind of tangible proof that it is as important to RL as is often claimed.
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"There's been people on here involved with promoting RL in schools in London complaining that the players are lost to RU because there's no clubs nearby for them to go to. That argument seems a bit weakened if there's actually over 100 in the capital to play at.'" Has there?
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| 1 There's only one top-flight Union team in London as well
2 Travel time is hugely important: I live a direct c.25 miles from Quins and it would take me 75-100 minutes to get there, so unless you're in Central London you automatically cut off half of the city because casual fans aren't going to travel that far.
3 Without Quins, you simply wouldn't have the level of club development that's going on: Skolars, Storm, St Albans, Hemel, Sharks, Brentwood, Hainault and many more all come off having a 'London' club at the top level. It doesn't mean all these players, spectators etc have to go to Quins.
4 What else would you have to talk about if there was no London club?
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| Quote ="Roofs"FFS, haven't they been given enough already?!!
Just simply never going to work there unfortunately, never has been an RL city and never will be.'"
Only if you consider £0 to be enough already
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| Quote ="Toulouse for super L"Only if you consider £0 to be enough already'"
Eh?! ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) I heard it was multiple millions each year. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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