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| A good pie for dinner and a pair of Wigan glasses obviously.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Ok if he's so good, what are his great strengths?'"
Fitness 10/10
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Aggression 8/10
Mc'Illorum is a great player, Wigan would have won no trophies if you swapped him with young Logan Tomkins.
Roby to start and burrow on the bench, signed a Wigan fan.
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| Quote ="shambawangy"Fitness 10/10
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Mc'Illorum is a great player, Wigan would have won no trophies if you swapped him with young Logan Tomkins.
Roby to start and burrow on the bench, signed a Wigan fan.'"
Im sure NZ are quaking at the prospect at facing his fitness, distribution and aggression. He's average admit it! No bursts from dummy half, no kicking game, no creativity, no guile.
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| McIllorum is just a Scott Moore without the drink problem
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| Roby, McIlorum or Burrow. All three class, we're blessed with three very capable hookers. I'd have no grumbles whoever is chosen, I know all 3 will do a great job in different ways.
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| Quote ="Frank35"Roby, McIlorum or Burrow. All three class, we're blessed with three very capable hookers. I'd have no grumbles whoever is chosen, I know all 3 will do a great job in different ways.'"
McIlorum's not 'class'.
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| It was a decent burst from dummy half that got him the try in the GF.
BTW quick ptb were binned after the 2008 WC when Aus & NZ players could lie on for ever.
Roby's spint from dummy half was nullified and we nothing except a good thrashing most games.
Quick dh runs work against slower and lower teams in SL. Against the best two Intl teams in Aus & NZ they are dead in the water and have been for years.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"It was a decent burst from dummy half that got him the try in the GF.
BTW quick ptb were binned after the 2008 WC when Aus & NZ players could lie on for ever.
Roby's spint from dummy half was nullified and we nothing except a good thrashing most games.
Quick dh runs work against slower and lower teams in SL. Against the best two Intl teams in Aus & NZ they are dead in the water and have been for years.'"
Someone forgot to tell Isaac Luke that DH running was dead.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"It was a decent burst from dummy half that got him the try in the GF.
BTW quick ptb were binned after the 2008 WC when Aus & NZ players could lie on for ever.
Roby's spint from dummy half was nullified and we nothing except a good thrashing most games.
Quick dh runs work against slower and lower teams in SL. Against the best two Intl teams in Aus & NZ they are dead in the water and have been for years.'"
Haha. It was a 4 yard scorcher wasn't it?
Anyway, you seem to be insinuating that running from dummy half is Roby's only strength. Yes that was his major attribute when he first started playing at hooker for Saints, but he has a top class all round game. Recently voted the 3rd best hooker in the world.
McIlorum probably isn't even the best hooker in his family.
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| Quote McIlorum probably isn't even the best hooker in his family.'"
Why is his dad on the game?
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| Quote ="wire quin"Why is his dad on the game?'"
I couldn't possibly say on a public forum.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"It was a decent burst from dummy half that got him the try in the GF.
BTW quick ptb were binned after the 2008 WC when Aus & NZ players could lie on for ever.
Roby's spint from dummy half was nullified and we nothing except a good thrashing most games.
Quick dh runs work against slower and lower teams in SL. Against the best two Intl teams in Aus & NZ they are dead in the water and have been for years.'"
So are you saying that none of our solid props can win a collision on Saturday? As that is what creates a fast dart from dummy half.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Another [ubaffoon[/u who believes that just because a team won it therefore means that each individual outplayed their opposite number.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the 2010 Grand Final when McIlorum "owned" Roby.
Wigan fans really are a different breed.'"
Interesting that you complain on the Wigan forum when someone aims a personal insult at you.
For what it's worth, I'd have neither on the bench. I'd play Roby for 80 mins.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Haha. It was a 4 yard scorcher wasn't it?
Anyway, you seem to be insinuating that running from dummy half is Roby's only strength. Yes that was his major attribute when he first started playing at hooker for Saints, but he has a top class all round game. Recently voted the 3rd best hooker in the world.
McIlorum probably isn't even the best hooker in his family.'"
Your hatred towards McIlorum as absoulutely cringeworthy. A typical bitter Saints fan that is very much feeling the pain of Wigan cleaning up. If he didn't play for this double winning Wigan side im willing to bet your opinion would be somewhat different. I have no idea why you are getting so defensive over Roby, nearly every single person on this thread has said Roby is Englands number one hooker.
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| Quote ="21-12"Your hatred towards McIlorum as absoulutely cringeworthy. A typical bitter Saints fan that is very much feeling the pain of Wigan cleaning up. If he didn't play for this double winning Wigan side im willing to bet your opinion would be somewhat different. I have no idea why you are getting so defensive over Roby, nearly every single person on this thread has said Roby is Englands number one hooker.'"
My opinion of McIlorum wouldn't change of he didn't play for Wigan. I have discussed the England squad various times and I've said that Liam Farrell and Josh Charnley should both play. They both play for Wigan.
And with regards to Roby, I was replying directly to someone who was suggesting all Roby does is run from dummy half. Therefore what everyone else on this thread thinks is irrelevant to my post.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Interesting that you complain on the Wigan forum when someone aims a personal insult at you.
For what it's worth, I'd have neither on the bench. I'd play Roby for 80 mins.'"
Buffoon - A person given to clowning and joking.
Hardly a personal insult.
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| Am i the only person that thinks MM's service from AHB is slow?
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| It does appear slow compared with what Roby does/
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| Quote ="Mr Churchill"It does appear slow compared with what Roby does/'"
He appears to have a slight pause in his pass.
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| No McIlorum or Chase in the squad for Saturday.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"No McIlorum or Chase in the squad for Saturday.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"No McIlorum or Chase in the squad for Saturday.
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I agree with this. Better late than never for Widdop, and Burrow brings far more attacking threat than does McIlorum. OK so Mickey Mac adds 'biff', but we've enough big guys to take care of this part of the game. Let's just hope that the entire RL community can finally get that his name is Burrow, and not 'Burrows' .
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| Is McNamara begining to make some correct selection decisions?
Chase was awful last Saturday and the McIlorum dummy half to Sinfield first receiver just doesn't work.
Best squad selection so far for our coach IMO.
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| That's the strongest squad named so far, but I find it baffling that the coach has decided to look at another half back combination when he's had games against Fiji, Ireland and possibly France to do this. With all the preparation that's gone in to building this squad, we shouldn't just be working out what our best side is in a WC semi final.
Hope Widdop plays out of his skin if he's selected to start.
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| Granted it's nit game time but they've been living in each others pockets, you'd think they have their combos and plays worked out now, I have faith that a player who regularly plays with 3 of the best players in the world week in week out will have no problem on Saturday.
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