Thanks Smokey

A simple "Yes they have debt"would have been sufficent.

Think you are wrong there.

As i said, other than petty point scoring it is of no use to anyone. Only somebody looking to score points would look to equate quins subordinate directors loans with 'debts' as used in the context discussed in this thread.

Though as a Wakefield fan im sure petty points are the only you are likely to score in this debate.

Now that is petty and makes you look ridiculous.

Who i support as absolutely nothing to do with my comments.

I own a car. The bastrd thing needs to be serviced on a regular basis, drinks fuel faster than I drink pints and costs me an arm and a leg.......but, I own it outright and it isn't in debt to me.
Exaclty the same for David Hughes. He owns the club....throws cash at it that he knows he will never see again.......but it doesn't owe him or anyone else money.
Harlequins RL are debt free.

Smokey and co can argue semantics all they like....doesn't change the fact that every penny DH throws at the club is money that he doesn't expect to ever get back. What he calls this money is purely down to what tax breaks he can get......after all, 1.5 million a year is bad enough without the bastrd tax man getting his pound of flesh as well

Does the fact that he knows he will never get his money back reflect better or worse on Quins than other clubs where the directors make loans in the expectation that the club will at some point be financially capable enough to repay them, hence carrying the debt on the balance sheet?

Quote ="gutterfax"I own a car. The bastrd thing needs to be serviced on a regular basis, drinks fuel faster than I drink pints and costs me an arm and a leg.......but, I own it outright and it isn't in debt to me. Exaclty the same for David Hughes. He owns the club....throws cash at it that he knows he will never see again.......but it doesn't owe him or anyone else money. Harlequins RL are debt free. Smokey and co can argue semantics all they like....doesn't change the fact that every penny DH throws at the club is money that he doesn't expect to ever get back. What he calls this money is purely down to what tax breaks he can get......after all, 1.5 million a year is bad enough without the bastrd tax man getting his pound of flesh as well '" Time for this - www.autotrader.co.uk/

Quote ="gutterfax"I own a car. The bastrd thing needs to be serviced on a regular basis, drinks fuel faster than I drink pints and costs me an arm and a leg.......but, I own it outright and it isn't in debt to me. Exaclty the same for David Hughes. He owns the club....throws cash at it that he knows he will never see again.......but it doesn't owe him or anyone else money. Harlequins RL are debt free. Smokey and co can argue semantics all they like....doesn't change the fact that every penny DH throws at the club is money that he doesn't expect to ever get back. What he calls this money is purely down to what tax breaks he can get......after all, 1.5 million a year is bad enough without the bastrd tax man getting his pound of flesh as well '" Time for this - www.autotrader.co.uk/

don't care how it reflects......FACT IS WE ARE DEBT FREE.
There are about 2...maybe 3 clubs in SL who make money....the others, including Quins RL all lose varying amounts of cash. David Hughes has decided that he will cover these losses every year.........therefore, we are debt free.
And...our fans have never done this.


RL.......a family game. Regardless of the excuses rolled out, IMO this is worse than Wakey or Crusaders going into administration...it is a disgrace. Even on your own boards there's a thread about the behaviour of your own fans....swearing at your own players.......yeah...you're a real credit to SL. Your 10 (or is that 9) overseas players......a real credit to the game........why keep you in SL when there is a better run, more profitable club, in a bigger and better stadium next door....with more fans.

What a fookin idiot.



1. If you think Hull KR are the only club to have had crowd trouble/disturbances in the last 3-4 years you are very wrong.
2. Hull KR and Hull FC draw over 30,000 rugby fans over two derbies in the city. If that doesn't help boost the profile and respect given to English RL I don't know what does.
3. Sky love the passion that both Hull clubs bring to SL.
4. Hull and Rovers average 12,000 and 8000 respectively, crowds your pathetic experiment can only ever dream of (you only shifted 9000 for a damn Cup Final in your own 8 million population city ffs!)
5. Hull KR won promotion in 2006, finished 11th in SL in 2007 (thus avoided relegation, despite been most peoples' tips for the drop), climbed 4 places to 7th in 2008, another 3 places in 2009, then despite finishing lower the next season (7th) claimed their first-ever play-off win. Who in the right mind could criticise that progress.

Face it GF, you're a nothing Experiment, very few people in the capital care about Fulcrubronquins Experiment and that'll never change. Both Hull clubs won their places in SL through the traditional, fair method of promotion, your Experiment were wrongly fast-tracked. Therefore if anyone should get kicked out it's your NL1/2 size Experiment (and I don't mean any disrespect to NL1 or 2 clubs by that).

You just LOVE this photo don't you Gutterfax






I didn't think it was possible to fit that much cheap polyester material into one photo personally.

Well done to the good people of Kingston Upon Hull for refusing to wear cotton and going with man made fibres I say








Edit: Has the little bloke in the blue t shirt mistakenly come to the wrong sport?

He seems to be signalling someone has scored 4 runs

Wonder what the sprinting steward actually did when he reached them, WWE-style clothesline?!

Did 'Mr Highlights' get banned from attending any future Rugby League fixtures for doing this?


If he didn't get banned for violence and/or entering the field of play he at least deserves banning for having a poor tattoo and the kicking style of a 5 year old schoolgirl.

IIRC to be fair to the guy he immediately knew that he'd done wrong and handed himself into the police. Not sure what happened to him, but there were several other fans from both clubs on there fighting so it's unfair to pick him out IMO.

why do neither of those guys have pants that are even close to being the right size? was there a clearout in the Hull branch of sports direct that week?


besides, when that steward coming in from behind reaches them, hes going to bring back the biff in all its glory


he handed himself into the police to save himself from the kicking that charging steward was about to hand out

And look at how slanting the pitch is, makes Mount Pleasant look even.

Thats right GF...they haven't.




Because you actually have to have some fans to do it in the first place.

PHIPPS, I do believe you have just acquired ownage of one Gutterfax...

....standard response when a nerve has been hit




Got any pictures of the other disturbances?
.....it confirms the preconception across the UK other than the M62 Corridor that League is a northern game. It makes no media ripple outside of that area.........
...stevo and eddie in9 over it isn't SKY loving it......HTH.
...yep...well supported and if you merged, you'd fill the KC


......er, the people who would like to see clubs less reliant on overseas talent....like....hmmmmm

The RFL



....HEY....LOVE IT. Hull FC are self sufficient and will stay semi-pro without SKY TV's money....you on the other hand will slip back into obscurity once you can't afford to pay your 10 overseas players and have no youth to replace them with.....


Calm down roofs....you really are too easy to rattle









BTW......Great Picture.....almost as good as HKA

Dream on roofs........just because PHIPPS makes a comment about lack of fans doen't make him a genius....just a wind up merchant who will pour petrol on any flame to amuse himself.

Great photo though

Well I'd still kick Fulcrubronquins Experiment out on principle.

save your energy guys, in a few weeks when the RFL announces which championship club is in, there will be plenty of heated threads to kick off on

Hope you guys finally get the place you deserve mate, get Fulcrubronquins Experiment to fill in for you in the Championship!

not wanting to get dragged into episode 5,628 of 'bash the quins'
its all been done to death. but GO QUINS! although im biased, my uncle played for fulham

Roofs, you are a bloody idiot.

Why?

I defend my club against Gutterfax, he does same with Quins and we have banter, what's your problem?