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| Hundreds of millions.... Please..... Don't believe the hype... Tool
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| Quote ="The_Wolfman"Hundreds of millions.... Please..... Don't believe the hype... Tool'"
That's why it's tongue in cheek.
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| Lets er on the side of caution then and say tens of millions around the globe, just to appease the warrington fan with a chip on his shoulder. Thats still exposure of RL on an uprecedented scale so well done Ian Leneghan 
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| Quote ="Saint77777"Lets er on the side of caution then and say tens of millions around the globe, just to appease the warrington fan with a chip on his shoulder. Thats still exposure of RL on an uprecedented scale so well done Ian Leneghan
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Are they playing RL when this audience of tens of millions tunes in?
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| Frankly you can only be dissapointed with Sams loyalty to RL.
Im still fuming with the RFL because of the half assed extention of the cap with Sams new contract. If they were going to do this it should have been a separate devlopment to Sams new contract.
But for me I frankly cant see how wigan fans can defend their chairmans actions.
RU have again pulled a masterstroke for this game boosting the Tv viewing attendance.
Wigan are looking increasingly weak in the face of RU and are allowing players to dictate.
We saw the fallout from the eastmond saga on the pitch and that was miniscule compared to this.
Sure you may increase his value but its his profile that gets raised not Wigans and not RL.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Are they playing RL when this audience of tens of millions tunes in?'"
Rugby League will never be watched by an audience of tens of millions.
But what better way to market our game, than Sam having a blinder during a union game.
Im sorry, but for all you chip on shoulder flat cappers who cant see the huge benefit in this, there is no hope.
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| Quote ="Saint77777"Rugby League will never be watched by an audience of tens of millions.
But what better way to market our game, than Sam having a blinder during a union game.
Im sorry, but for all you chip on shoulder flat cappers who cant see the huge benefit in this, there is no hope.'"
Ah, the 'flat-cappers' response; often trotted out by people who are prepared to accept the RFL's mishandling of RL as a product, because they don't have any understanding themselves of how it could be improved.
As for 'what better way to market the game' - given the fact that this will do little or nothing at all for the profile of RL, there's a million and one better ways to market the game. 24 hours worth of posts on this forum alone for example, could provide better marketing ideas than letting RL's latest starlet play for the other code - a code which only this morning has shown that it's elite level players use international duties as an excuse to behave like a pub team on a weekend jolly.
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| If Sam puts in a good performance it believe it will encourage more people to watch RL.
Why would he want to switch to union? After what I read in the papers today it's filled with idiots.
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| Quote ="Sporties"Sure you may increase his value but its his profile that gets raised not Wigans and not RL.'"
But having used this stunt to gain greater publicity for the player it is then up to Wigan and the RFL to use this higher profile to their advantage.
We have an incredible game and fantastic athletes, yet nothing we have done in the past has made the national media and therefore the wider public take notice. If doing something like this gives one of our players an increased profile then we have something we can begin to build our marketing around.
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| Quote ="Daddy Pig"But having used this stunt to gain greater publicity for the player it is then up to Wigan and the RFL to use this higher profile to their advantage.
We have an incredible game and fantastic athletes, yet nothing we have done in the past has made the national media and therefore the wider public take notice. If doing something like this gives one of our players an increased profile then we have something we can begin to build our marketing around.'"
I don't see how anything will come out of this stunt other than raising the profile of Sam Tomkins and RU.
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| Yes the RU are certainly not using for their own PR -
[urlhttps://twitter.com/#!/Official_RFU/status/139341427867009027/photo/1[/url
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| That pic makes me shudder.
What I dont want to see is young RL players looking forward to using a short career in RL to an lucrative pay day in RU.
RL is not a feeder sport.
RU are milking this for all its worth.
Perhaps as a PR trade we could get Chris Ashton/ Sonny Bill to play for the exiles next June?
The RFL have had a few warning shots but this needs to wake them up - the RFU and NRL are ready to poach our talent.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"You wear your countries socks normally so he may well play in Wigan's
Ba-ba games are traditionally hard fought with a fair few young & upcoming players but the intensity is just not that of a full international. They have always been a release of the shackles type game in terms of throwing the ball about, defenders don't go OTT in their efforts so loads of points are usually scored. It IS an exhibition match so with the result not massively important expect lots of open passages of play which Sam might well expose if played in the right position.'"
He's playing on the wing.
[urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rugby/11/11/23/RUGBYU_Barbarians.html&BID=480[/url
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| Quote ="Saint77777"
Im sorry, but for all you chip on shoulder flat cappers who cant see the huge benefit in this, there is no hope.'"
And who says you are right? 
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| It's not as if you can blame them for milking it though!
Tomkins and Habana on the wings, should be prety destructive..... Well thats if they get the ball
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| Quote ="Daddy Pig"But having used this stunt to gain greater publicity for the player it is then up to Wigan and the RFL to use this higher profile to their advantage.'"
The RFL and IL have already done this, but it was obviously ignored by most people here.
Quote We have an incredible game and fantastic athletes, yet nothing we have done in the past has made the national media and therefore the wider public take notice.'"
This is not true pre-super league there was plenty of coverage, the most famous sporting club outside of football and arguably cricket was Wigan themselves and the most famous player of either code was Martin Offiah and at that time GB International RL was seeing it's greatest ever attendances and at Wembley and RL had regular terrestial TV coverage. RU as a sport became professional and that is when things began to change along with the involvement of Sky.
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If doing something like this gives one of our players an increased profile then we have something we can begin to build our marketing around.'"
RFL have already declared ST as their face of RL so they clearly have something in mind one of the problems with this is ST is hardly universally liked within RL in the same terms Pietersen, Wilkinson, Beckham.
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| Tenner on Sam getting hat trick at 66/1 ha
Itll make a dull game a bit more interesting I guess.
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| Quote ="Thoth"The RFL and IL have already done this, but it was obviously ignored by most people here.'"
I am talking long term brand building here - If Sam is with us for at least three years we can use his profile to attract new fans through innovative marketing.
Quote ="Thoth"This is not true pre-super league there was plenty of coverage, the most famous sporting club outside of football and arguably cricket was Wigan themselves and the most famous player of either code was Martin Offiah and at that time GB International RL was seeing it's greatest ever attendances and at Wembley and RL had regular terrestial TV coverage. RU as a sport became professional and that is when things began to change along with the involvement of Sky.'"
Whilst I agree that International attendances were better I don't ever remember getting substantial press coverage - this has always been one of my pet hates. Possibly the inclusion of more "High profile" converts from union had an impact on attendances - all the more reason to try different ways of increasing the profile of our modern players.
Quote ="Thoth"RFL have already declared ST as their face of RL so they clearly have something in mind one of the problems with this is ST is hardly universally liked within RL in the same terms Pietersen, Wilkinson, Beckham.'"
I don't see this as a problem - the only people that have a particular dislike for Sam are some existing spectators. I would think that new fans would be more attracted to expansive, exciting rugby rather than put off by niggling on-field antics.
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| Stuart Barnes doesn't like Tomkins' lifestyle.
Great publicity so far...
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| He'll be wasted on the wing
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| Quote ="Pookie"Yes the RU are certainly not using for their own PR -
[urlhttps://twitter.com/#!/Official_RFU/status/139341427867009027/photo/1[/url'"
That's the first time ive seen him smile.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Stuart Barnes doesn't like Tomkins' lifestyle.
Great publicity so far...'"
i read this on skysports, what the f does he know about sam's lifestyle? the fact he works hard at raising money for milly or is it just a dig that he plays league?
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| At least if he spends 80 minutes as a spectator, it will put him off Union for life.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"He'll be wasted on the wing'"
But where would you play Sam in a RU team?
Ignoring the pack (for obvious reasons) he wouldn't make a good scrum half as he'd want to run with the ball too much; he wouldn't make a good fly half as he hasn't got the RU experience to direct play well; he wouldn't make a good centre as he hasn't got the build needed to take the ball into the oncoming pack of the defending team.
Given the ethos of the Barbarians it would be difficult to argue against selecting him at full back, but looking at it from a long-term perspective (on the assumption he will eventually sign for a RU club) his natural game isn't that of a RU full back given the amount of kicking they do.
That leaves you with putting him on the wing.
Sam Tomkins is clearly a very good RL player who has the potential to go on to be one of the sport's great players. But, IMHO, he is far less likely to make a successful RU player than Joel Tomkins is probably going to become.
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| Has Eastmond played RU yet?
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