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| Quote ="vbfg"Well they intimated they would but I think at this point you can put that one to bed.'"
I'll sue you for saying that.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"It was NOT to repay the loan, that was covered by the RFL taking over the lease to Odsal and charging the Bulls a rent to play there and maintain the ground. The 1 year sky money was because a majority...not all the clubs .....decided to flex their collective might as they were extremely unhappy about the secret un-secured loan to the Bulls and the subsequent taking over the lease when it was realised that bradford had not made any payments in the last year on the loan and looked likely never to be able to pay off the loan. Some clubs felt the RFL had overstepped the mark in the assistance that had been given to the bulls.....'"
The Bulls thought that when they sold the lease to the RFL they would receive the sale price. Instead the RFL kept it, to repay their loan.
Of course, the fact that if the Bulls were in a financial mire, and if they went down the tube, the RFL would basically have had to write off this loan, and the result that the RFL neatly got their loan back in full unlike other creditors was, I am sure, pure serendipitous coincidence. A happy accident of timing.
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| Anyone potential owners on the horizon? Any word from Mr Lamb?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Anyone potential owners on the horizon? Any word from Mr Lamb?'"
He met with the administrators yesterday.
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So, with the ongoing preceedings, Moore says if the rfl says sorry, it'll all go away
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āWe have stated if they donāt retract the press release and issue an apology in the time frame then we will take legal action,ā he said.
āThey have made a serious allegation against me and all of us. Of course, anything is negotiable but it just depends and it takes two people to talk.
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Surely this is a no brainer for the rfl?
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So, with the ongoing preceedings, Moore says if the rfl says sorry, it'll all go away
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āWe have stated if they donāt retract the press release and issue an apology in the time frame then we will take legal action,ā he said.
āThey have made a serious allegation against me and all of us. Of course, anything is negotiable but it just depends and it takes two people to talk.
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Surely this is a no brainer for the rfl?
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| They've walked away because of the points deduction and now they want there money back and they're only going to get that off the RFL?
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But if the RFL are 100% correct in their statement why should they apologise? Moore & co have basically accused the RFL of lying in a public statement. While it may make Moore etc go away, it could make life very difficult for some RFL leaders.
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But if the RFL are 100% correct in their statement why should they apologise? Moore & co have basically accused the RFL of lying in a public statement. While it may make Moore etc go away, it could make life very difficult for some RFL leaders.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"But if the RFL are 100% correct in their statement why should they apologise? Moore & co have basically accused the RFL of lying in a public statement. While it may make Moore etc go away, it could make life very difficult for some RFL leaders.'"
We are very sorry our comments were construed by the parties as offensive. Our very last intention was to harm the reputation of parties involved, merely to protect the name of the rfl during these proceedings. Our number one priority is finding a solution to the ongoing problems at Bradford, and, owing to events over the offseason (lenaghan and koukash the bar stewards) may have dealt with this issue in a heavy handed manner.
Problem solved, no actual confession of guilt, everyone's happy. A placid statement like this is a lot cheaper than taking it to court to prove a point.
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| Quote ="Nothus"He met with the administrators yesterday.'"
Hopefully he has real money to invest, and can stop the bulls being liquidated
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"We are very sorry our comments were construed by the parties as offensive. Our very last intention was to harm the reputation of parties involved, merely to protect the name of the rfl during these proceedings. Our number one priority is finding a solution to the ongoing problems at Bradford, and, owing to events over the offseason (lenaghan and koukash the bar stewards) may have dealt with this issue in a heavy handed manner.
Problem solved, no actual confession of guilt, everyone's happy. A placid statement like this is a lot cheaper than taking it to court to prove a point.'"
thats not a retraction so may not placate them.
Regardless the RFL shouldnt be making statements it cannot stand by. If the RFL do retract their statement, or end up losing a libel case. Ralph Rimmer should be looking for a new job. It is unacceptable to be making a statement which puts the RFL in legal trouble to protect your reputation.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"thats not a retraction so may not placate them.
Regardless the RFL shouldnt be making statements it cannot stand by. If the RFL do retract their statement, or end up losing a libel case. Ralph Rimmer should be looking for a new job. It is unacceptable to be making a statement which puts the RFL in legal trouble to protect your reputation.'"
Agreed entirely. However, this looks more of a backdown from Moore more than anything, if he had a chance to recoup whatever he put in Bradford with a watertight case, why would you "settle" for an apology and a retraction? The most interesting thing of the article :-
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It is a bit of a warning to them to make sure they cross all the tās and dot all the iās while maybe getting more stuff in print.
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Admission perhaps that he doesn't have everything he needs written and dated? If it comes down to he said this they said that, it's going to become (another) long winded mess, that everyone in the sport could do without!
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Agreed entirely. However, this looks more of a backdown from Moore more than anything, if he had a chance to recoup whatever he put in Bradford with a watertight case, why would you "settle" for an apology and a retraction? The most interesting thing of the article :-
Admission perhaps that he doesn't have everything he needs written and dated? If it comes down to he said this they said that, it's going to become (another) long winded mess, that everyone in the sport could do without!'"
I think the legal action would be for libel. Which an apology and retraction would have an effect.
I dont think Moore is threatening legal action to recover his losses from the RFL, im not sure what case he could possibly bring, especially as he hasnt even followed the full appeal process for the sporting penalty, and if unhappy with the RFL's wierd offer of independant arbitration if the arbitrators arent independant, he could have taken the cause to CAS
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| so are we are at the point of a mexican standoff ??.....
who has the better poker hand..??
has Moore and co blinked first, has the beads of sweat started to form on the browline........do the rfl fold, call or raise........
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Agreed entirely. However, this looks more of a backdown from Moore more than anything, if he had a chance to recoup whatever he put in Bradford with a watertight case, why would you "settle" for an apology and a retraction? ...'"
You don't know much about libel. It isn't a public dick measuring contest, if one party apologises and retracts then there is little or no money to be had, and the libel court could (and very well might) take the view that a party ploughing on to a hearing refusing to accept an apology and retraction was wasting everyone's time, and stuff it for a very large amount of costs.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"You don't know much about libel. It isn't a public dick measuring contest, if one party apologises and retracts then there is little or no money to be had, and the libel court could (and very well might) take the view that a party ploughing on to a hearing refusing to accept an apology and retraction was wasting everyone's time, and stuff it for a very large amount of costs.'"
That's precisely what I'm suggesting? If I had a case against someone, for a decent sum of money, I wouldn't just settle for an apology and a retraction, and get the case thrown out!
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"so are we are at the point of a mexican standoff ??.....
who has the better poker hand..??
has Moore and co blinked first, has the beads of sweat started to form on the browline........do the rfl fold, call or raise........'"
Nach O'wensalsa
Brilliant name for a Mexican stand off
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"so are we are at the point of a mexican standoff ??.....'" We were chasing Mark Mexico, but he's a prop.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"so are we are at the point of a mexican standoff ??.....
who has the better poker hand..??
has Moore and co blinked first, has the beads of sweat started to form on the browline........do the rfl fold, call or raise........'"
Can they even pick up the cards with their cack hands?
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"That's precisely what I'm suggesting? If I had a case against someone, for a decent sum of money, I wouldn't just settle for an apology and a retraction, and get the case thrown out!'"
Hmm. I'm not understanding you then, because you seem to me to be suggesting the opposite to what I am.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Can they even pick up the cards with their cack hands?'"
Don't be daft, they were still blind...
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Hmm. I'm not understanding you then, because you seem to me to be suggesting the opposite to what I am.'"
Then I apologise for any confusion my statement made! I am suggesting the offer of apology and retraction, weakens the case, and should it be accepted, whilst leaving the rfl rather sheepish, would lead to the end of the case. This was my take away comment from what you were suggesting also?
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Then I apologise for any confusion my statement made! I am suggesting the offer of apology and retraction, weakens the case, and should it be accepted, whilst leaving the rfl rather sheepish, would lead to the end of the case. This was my take away comment from what you were suggesting also?'"
So far as I know there has been no apology or retraction, and all the RFL said was they would make no public comment at all.
In most cases a quick apology and retraction, maybe in appropriate cases with some costs and maybe even modest damages, should most certainly be considered very seriously.
If someone who has libelled you accept they did so, and acts quickly to set the record straight, then that minimizes the potential value in damages. And rightly so, the whole point being to try to get folk to settle their differences out of court, and encourage both sides to be reasonable in doing so.
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| Anything further from Mr Lamb?
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| give him a chance, there's no need to roast Lamb.
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| [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29588/rfl-statement-bradford-bullsIt's after 4pm...[/url
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