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| Quote ="Wellsy"you can't fluke finishing top of the league.'" You can if all the other contenders are focussed on performing at their best in the play offs rather than the qualifying rounds.
Claiming Wire had a better season than Leeds when Leeds achieved what everyone else wanted to is crazy.
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Warrington - Brilliant season, poor finish
Leeds - Mediocre season - brilliant finish
Why choose? It depends on whether your definition of 'better season' hinges on consistent performance in the league or getting to/winning finals.
For me, the 'champion' end to the season more than compensates for some of the poorer stuff we had to suffer in the earlier rounds, whilst Wire fans, I suspect can be consoled by the fact that they played the best rugby for most of the year.'"
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| Quote ="Dougy"As a fan i'd rather have Warrington's season.
I know Leeds won the GF but with 3 games to go the Leeds fans were booing them!
I buy a season ticket to see my team win the league, not the Grand Final.'"
This post is Total BS from start to finish !
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"This post is Total BS from start to finish !'"
i agree
As an actual fan on the whole i enjoyed the season but if you gave me both scenarios it would be Leeds every time.
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| Quote ="Wellsy"You can fluke winning a Grand Final, but you can't fluke finishing top of the league.'"
No you can't.
Leeds won one of the two important trophies, and also got to the final of the other, they get my vote.
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| Quote ="Dougy"every game should matter, not just the last 4. If the rest don't matter then why do you buy a season ticket? surely they are only equivalent to friendlies if they don't matter?
the fact we have this debate proves its all wrong - if top of the league were champions we wouldn't be saying Leeds have had a better season cos they've won the Premiership trophy!
Did Birmingham City have a better season than Arsenal last season cos they won 5 knockout games to win the League Cup?!'"
but the rules are there for all to see the winners of the grand final are the champions,there not my rules they are the rules of the rfl,so teams will train to be stronger at the end of a season.
you can make your point all you like but thats that,has for why do you buy a season ticket its because i support my team "cas" who dont have much sucsess but all the same i still enjoy watching them most of the time,if we all supported the supposed teams that can win then the game would be in an even sorrier state than it already is.
for what its worth warrington had a good season but ultimatly failed in what they sat out to do which was to win the grand final and given the players that they had at there disposal which through out the season they showed to be the strongest side but when it came to knock out football they lost.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"but the rules are there for all to see the winners of the grand final are the champions,there not my rules they are the rules of the rfl,so teams will train to be stronger at the end of a season.
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True, but I'd go further.
Warrington were blessed with very few major injury concerns (as Leeds were during the 'three-in-a-row' years.
Who's to say that Leeds would not have competed better throughout last season if they hadn't played without arguably their best back(McGuire) and their strongest forward(Peacock) for much of it. Leeds also played much of the season without recognised props or half-backs or centres.
I for one, believe it's no accident that McGuire and Peacock's return to the team (along with many other injured first-teamers) coincided with Leeds' return to champion form.
Factor in a new coaching team, virtually no pre-season and new playing systems, and Leeds' poor early season form takes on a wholly different and much brighter perspective.
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| Leeds by as country mile,if any wire fan says otherwise is lying IMO.
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| We had plenty of 'key' injuries through the season but we had a good squad depth and were fortunate enough to not have players with very long recovery time injuries.
Name our key players and they all had a spell on the treatment table.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"We had plenty of 'key' injuries through the season but we had a good squad depth and were fortunate enough to not have players with very long recovery time injuries.
Name our key players and they all had a spell on the treatment table.'"
Yes, but not all at once and like you said not long recovery times, which is why I specified major injury concerns. There was no point in the season where you could say you had an injury crisis in the same way as Leeds (and indeed Saints) could for a very large chunk of it.
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| Ask any Warrington player who happened to have been watching Sky Sports at around 7.30pm on Saturday Oct 8, 2011 who had the better season and I think you may get the correct answer
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| As a KR fan I would have been happy to have the season the Wolves or Leeds had (as would most other teams fans) but if I had to choose then Leeds for me. They won the competition & a cup final apearance wolves did not end of story for me.
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| Where was the Wigan option by the way?
Didn't they win something at Wembley this year?
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| Quote ="justarugbyfan"Where was the Wigan option by the way?
Didn't they win something at Wembley this year?'" It may come as a surprise to you and your brethren but not everything in Rugby League revolves around Wigan.
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| definitely leeds,and created a bit of superleague history..
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| Quote ="MjM"It may come as a surprise to you and your brethren but not everything in Rugby League revolves around Wigan.'"
They won a trophy this year so I'm querying why they weren't included in the poll. At no point did I state that everything revolves around Wigan.
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| Quote ="justarugbyfan"They won a trophy this year so I'm querying why they weren't included in the poll. At no point did I state that everything revolves around Wigan.'" Because the poll was related to Warrington and Leeds, and wasn't anything to do with Wigan?
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| Quote ="justarugbyfan"They won a trophy this year so I'm querying why they weren't included in the poll. At no point did I state that everything revolves around Wigan.'"
The answer would still be Leeds though.
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"The answer would still be Leeds though.'"
Yeah it would
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| Permit me to drag this debate to the Championship level. In 2010 Featherstone steamrollered their way to the top and stayed there pretty much all the way through. Played Halifax in the final and stormed into a good half time lead. With me so far? Came out second half and stuck it to Halifax some more. Yep - Featherstone's season - no doubt. Fax 22-6 down with 16 mins to go. 17 mins later, Fax are Champions. Go and ask Fev fans if they had a better season in 2010 or 2011.
The answer to the OP's question is Leeds.
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| Leeds by a distance.
Ask people in 20 years who won the super league title and they'll tell you Leeds. Ask them who appeared in the challenge cup final and most will be able to remember it was Wigan and Leeds. Ask those same people who won the league leaders shield and it'll be a struggle to get an answer because sadly it means little.
For top sides like Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Wire etc success has to be judged by trophies at the end of the day and the shield is nothing more then a token gesture.
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| Quote ="justarugbyfan"Where was the Wigan option by the way?
Didn't they win something at Wembley this year?'"
The poll was to try settle an argument with my Wire supporting mate. As i'm a Leeds fan when we discuss RL its usually Leeds and Wire issues and we dont feel the need to discuss WWRL, so they were not part of our argument!!
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| How can a team be classed as the best if they failed to beat the existing champs in 3 attempts?
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| Leeds by miles. Written off early in the season, loads of injuries to key players, and having a storming finish. Warrington again failed to follow up from previous seasons successes, and, not surprisingly to many, bottled it in key games.
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| Winning the GF and getting to Wembley means Leeds did have the better season, as that's a more significant hall of trophies than Wire managed. Wire also had a great season, and probably played the best rugby on display last year, but trophies count at the end of the day. I'm disappointed that some fellow Wire fans are still griping about the League Leaders being the 'real champions'. It's not true, the champions are Leeds, like it or not, as they won the GF.
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