And Admin don't think he's a troll.

He’s related to one of them. No one else gets to behave like he does and last so long.

leeds 'on their day' are still pretty good, just shockingley inconsistent.

I'm pointing out how I see it.

Just because I've said Leeds Rhinos and Hull FC are poor sides it doesnt mean it's trolling. No one could disagree with it.

And comapred to yesterdays game between the top 2 sides todays game was a poor one. Between 2 poor sides.

Hull FC should have hammered Leeds today. They didn't. Leeds are poor. So in my opinion that means Hull were even worse.

Using a paint roller.

I was going to say whatever credibility he had, has gone with this thread. But.

Not rocket science is it?
We know we are crap,so really don`t need it being pointed out to us by outsiders.

you mean The Pacific 'Trash Vortex'?

I know it's not going to happen but on yesterdays performance I'd get rid of both Leeds and Hull tomorrow and replace them in SL with Halifax and Featherstone.

They certainly couldn't be any worse.

Anyone who loses to Bradford on there own pad are really, really bad!

Ignore him,he might go away.

Who do we replace the other 12 teams with?

you know your stuff pal

He does actually. Who could say for sure, that Fax wouldn't have won the GF. All you need to do is coast along in the league all season, have a really easy run in to Wembley and make sure your squad is at full strength for the play offs. Then it's finalist in the CC and winners at OT. Hey presto.

If it was really that easy you'd all be doing it.

I wished some of them would make a bit more effort. Grand Finals have become a bit like those family weddings and funerals where you only see the same people once a year......

that's just how our season panned out


it's a shame that halifax couldn't win their gf though

Leeds made it look easy, from 5th no less. But theres a reason no ones done it before.

Leeds have won more grand finals than any other team in super league history. It was just the way the season panned out, they didn't plan on getting thrashed by their rivals and languising in mid table. But it's a measure of their character, ability and determination that they came back from that to overcome their rivals better placed and claim the title.

I'd suggest few other teams could have done that, and that's why leeds are more than worthy champions.

Can't argue with the way Leeds went in the play off's but they did appear at times to be short changing their fans, with some woeful performances during the season.

Presumably much like Warrington and Wigan short changed their fans with some woeful performances in the playoffs?

as its so easy to peak at the right time of the season,i look forward to the next side that wins a gf from 5th or lower
it probably won't happen for a very long time though,unless the rhinos finish 6th,7th or 8th

we were a shambles at times, not just a team or individuals having a poor game but an absolute shambles. no shape, no pattern of play, no structure.
the fact we won is testament to the charachter of the players and, if i'm being honest, the turnaround amazed me

it's not how you start it's how you finish

You make it sound like Leeds were deliberately poor for the early part of the season. I don't think there's any question of 'short-changing' here. Leeds didn't perform well for a number of very valid reasons, including a new coaching team, a badly disrupted off-season, loss of key players to injury and a pretty unsettled squad (with many players playing out of position) as a result. Their return to form coincided with the return to form of the previously missing Peacock(in particular) and McGuire, together I think with a growing understanding of individual roles within the team.

Had Leeds had the luxury of a settled team, without as much as a third of their salary cap sat on the bench for much of the season, I'm pretty sure they would have challenged much better in the league ladder.