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| Both Pryce and McGuire are good against the lesser SL teams where there is space and time and tend to go missing in big games
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Both Pryce and McGuire are good against the lesser SL teams where there is space and time and tend to go missing in big games'"
I don't get this Pryce goes missing in big games bollox.
His record for Bradford and for Saints says this is not the case just have a look at his trophy collection.
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| Pryce would be ok I think. I think hes a quality "back" and provides cover. Id pick him
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| Quote ="Dunbar"This insight that Steve McNamara has into Leon Pryce led him to leave him out of his recent 37 man squad. Speaks for itself'"
Exactly, if that heavyweight of the coaching world, Steve McNamara, who managed to take a bradford team full of NRL experience and turn them into a team who would struggle to beat London Skolars, drops someone, you HAVE to take notice and not question him.
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| Quote ="Moomin"Exactly, if that heavyweight of the coaching world, Steve McNamara, who managed to take a bradford team full of NRL experience and turn them into a team who would struggle to beat London Skolars, drops someone, you HAVE to take notice and not question him.'"
Based on Pryce's performance the last time he went down under, I would suggest that McNamara is overqualified to make this call
The point is Mcguire and Pryce are not bad players but if we take them down under we know we will get beat - they have been there before and not done that, why should they peform any better this time round? At least if we take players like Tomkins we have the possibility of hope
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| Quote ="Dunbar"Based on Pryce's performance the last time he went down under, I would suggest that McNamara is overqualified to make this call
The point is Mcguire and Pryce are not bad players but if we take them down under we know we will get beat - they have been there before and not done that, why should they peform any better this time round? At least if we take players like Tomkins we have the possibility of hope'"
Remind me again who was at 6 when we last beat the aussies down under?
The rest of your point is stupid. Its like saying, lets drop the entire Leeds team because they played so poorly on saturday
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| Quote ="Moomin"The rest of your point is stupid. Its like saying, lets drop the entire Leeds team because they played so poorly on saturday'"
Yes, my point concerning the performance of the England/GB team who haven't beaten Austrlalia in a meaningful game for over 30 years was exactly like comparing it to the current and three times Super League winners - I see the error of my ways now thanks
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Best player in Super League by an enormous distance.
But he's injured, so this thread is a bit of a write off.'"
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| 1. Tomkins
6. Brown
7. Eastmond
To put pryce at full back would be stupid as he never plays there and when he has before it aint worked.
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| Quote ="Eaton"1. Tomkins
6. Brown
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To put pryce at full back would be stupid as he never plays there and when he has before it aint worked.'"
You want to replace the second best SO in SL, in tomkins, with Kevin Brown??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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| I'd play a back line of:
Widdop
Fox/Riley
Pryce
Atkins
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McGuire
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| 1 - Tomkins
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| Doubt Pryce will play again this year, so it's academic.
He is clearly one of England's most dangerous players though and should be in any England squad. A good coaching team can get the most out of difficult personalities - just dropping difficult players isn't always the answer.
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| Tomkins
Briscoe/Riley
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| Tomkins
Briscoe
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Widdop, McGuire, Riley & Shenton in the squad.
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| i'd put pryce in the ....
he defo has to be in the 24man squad though cos he can cover more positions than anybody we have
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| For me he should be in the England squad for the 4 nations(if fit)and he can probably cover every position except prop forward.
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| Quote ="Moomin"You want to replace the second best SO in SL, in tomkins, with Kevin Brown??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????'"
Yes i would, Brown is up there in the stats for assists etc, he creates a lot and he would allow tomkins to concentrate on his own game at full back which could result in him scoring try's. For me widdop should be not even come near the England squad, what he has played one game in the NRL now come on that is utter rubbish, he has hardley any experiance and it would be a huge mistake to put him in such a important position. Just because he plays in Australia it does not make him international class.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"For me he should be in the England squad for the 4 nations(if fit)and he can probably cover every position except prop forward.'"
I'm as much a Saints fan as the next Saints fan but that's just ridiculous
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| Quote ="ExiledWool"I'm as much a Saints fan as the next Saints fan but that's just ridiculous'"
if you took a second to think about it it's actually not that ridiculous
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"if you took a second to think about it it's actually not that ridiculous'"
I have thought about it for a second and I have come to the conclusion that suggesting Leon Pryce can play 9, 11, 12 or 13 to international standard is ridiculous. There is already significant disagreement to whether he can play in the backline to international standard
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"if you took a second to think about it it's actually not that ridiculous'"
I did and still conclude that suggesting Pryce can play anywhere but prop is ridiculous
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| Widdop is currently playing standoff for Melbourne reserve grade, so wouldn't automatically pick him as England fullback. Tomkins seems to be doing well in the NRL style attacking fullback role, so maybe it would be good to see him there for England, although I still think him and Eastmond are the medium to long term future for England in the halves. I think Myler is overrated, Burrow is a one trick pony, and as already pointed out McGuire's excellent supporting play hides his limitations.
It's a shame Pryce never pushed himself as a centre, as I think he could have been great in that position, with his size, pace and step, as a standoff he's probably the best England have at present, but I just don't think that's his most natural position.
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| after mcguires shocking defensive performance against the aussies i wouldnt play him at 6 for england again
6. tomkins
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| Quote ="ExiledWool"I'm as much a Saints fan as the next Saints fan but that's just ridiculous'"
Why is it ridiculous.
I am not saying he would actually play in any of those positions but he can cover almost every position as back up for injuries,how many other players can do that.
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