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| Ok Hall.
Great player, absolutely nothing wrong with his defence, baffles me why people think there is, but they did the same to TJ.
However, I happen to know the Hall story, the last bit of gossip I got after falling out of the loop.
I can’t do details but there was way more to it than just getting Dagger in, Hall has or at least had an issue at the time, that’s all I can say, other than it was one we couldn’t take a risk on.
I think Hall is a perfect fit for us, always did, we shall see.
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| Quote ="vastman"Ok Hall.
Great player, absolutely nothing wrong with his defence, baffles me why people think there is, but they did the same to TJ.
However, I happen to know the Hall story, the last bit of gossip I got after falling out of the loop.
I can’t do details but there was way more to it than just getting Dagger in, Hall has or at least had an issue at the time, that’s all I can say, other than it was one we couldn’t take a risk on.
I think Hall is a perfect fit for us, always did, we shall see.'"
Not sure of the mystery, but the one rumour that I read a few times why we may have wanted to get rid of him, if it's the same one you're alluding to, is supposedly the club had concerns about his head knocks, but at the time I thought people could be reaching and just a rumour.
Who are they? I had a completely different opinion on TJ, he never had anything wrong with his defence, the only thing you could nitpick and it was when he first burst onto the scene was his positioning, which all wingers have to learn.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Not sure of the mystery, but the one rumour that I read a few times why we may have wanted to get rid of him, if it's the same one you're alluding to, is supposedly the club had concerns about his head knocks, but at the time I thought people could be reaching and just a rumour.
Who are they? I had a completely different opinion on TJ, he never had anything wrong with his defence, the only thing you could nitpick and it was when he first burst onto the scene was his positioning, which all wingers have to learn.'"
The TJ defence was just fans of top clubs using it as a stick to suggest he wasn’t the top winger or worthy of an England spot. There was no justification and it was drivel.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"We're meant to have signed Russell, so it'd be Russell and Lino wouldn't it as Lawford would be back up. Let's be honest ideally, we'd have a couple of places left on the quota to get both.'"
Let them take him.
His poor fitness and self discipline is why he fell out of favour at Hull KR.
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| Hull KR are reportedly on the look out for a hooker. We had better get Doyle and Smith tied into contracts before the Trawler Boys come calling again
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| Quote ="Dr Dreadnought"Hull KR are reportedly on the look out for a hooker. We had better get Doyle and Smith tied into contracts before the Trawler Boys come calling again'"
The days of them getting easy pickings at Wakey are over
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"The days of them getting easy pickings at Wakey are over'"
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| Quote ="Dr Dreadnought"Doyle is out of contract at the end of the season not sure about Smith'"
Let's hope we're working on contract talks with him then, quality player.
just read an article about us having plenty of cap space etc and they talked about this, it's probably where you got it from and I hope we are going to keep him but it says we've Quote Only two off-contract players – Luke Gale and Thomas Doyle – were absent, with the rest of the players in that bracket listed as not yet determined'"
That sort of signals that he's not going to be kept if he isn't on the undetermined list we've handed out. Hopefully, there's still time for him to play for his contract but it'd be a shame imo.
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| Just seen a picture of Corey Hall wearing a Cas shirt, hideous !. I'm off to disinfect my eyeballs
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| Quote ="Dr Dreadnought"Just seen a picture of Corey Hall wearing a Cas shirt, hideous !. I'm off to disinfect my eyeballs'"
He has been playing for them for 2 weeks
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| Quote ="financialtimes"He has been playing for them for 2 weeks
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Yep I knew that but today was the first time I'd seen a picture of him in that shirt! Horrible!
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| If we are looking to make an impact next year I’d like to think we are targeting players at a level above what Cas will be targeting.
I’ve nothing against Hall however I did feel he was somewhat overhyped after 1 admittedly impressive season.
He seems unable to settle anywhere for different reasons and is now in limbo regards his position being used as a secondrow and centre.
Obviously much depends on who else is available and his expectations but to be honest personally I wouldn’t lose any sleep if we missed out on him.
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| Quote ="jonh"If we are looking to make an impact next year I’d like to think we are targeting players at a level above what Cas will be targeting.
I’ve nothing against Hall however I did feel he was somewhat overhyped after 1 admittedly impressive season.
He seems unable to settle anywhere for different reasons and is now in limbo regards his position being used as a secondrow and centre.
Obviously much depends on who else is available and his expectations but to be honest personally I wouldn’t lose any sleep if we missed out on him.'"
Don't disagree, he is no world beater, no one is claiming he is, but with no overseas quota places available our options become more limited, there just aren't that many centres out of contract at the moment, I'm more than happy to leave the decision up to recruitment team they have done a fantastic job so far
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| Let's not forget this is a squad game, not every player we sign will be with a view to them being a first choice 17 player.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Not sure of the mystery, but the one rumour that I read a few times why we may have wanted to get rid of him, if it's the same one you're alluding to, is supposedly the club had concerns about his head knocks, but at the time I thought people could be reaching and just a rumour.
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Part of it, but not the only reason. Appleyard definitely wanted Dagger, that's certainly the main reason, I wouldn't argue with that. Whether people like it or not Dagger was actually the best signing Mash ever made, and if we had of stopped up, he'd have been far more instrumental in our survival than Hall. The team did improve on his arrival as far as I'm concerned. We actually didn't want to lose Hall if we could avoid it, but we simply couldn't afford to sign Dagger and pay a fee, so a player swap was our only option, and Hall was one of the players they were willing to take, they had us over a barrel. Part of the justification for Hall was the head issue he supposedly had at the time, and it was a position we could cover better than FB, where we were really struggling. People can blame Mash and Carter all they like, but there were very few options at the time.
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| Quote ="Dr Dreadnought"Hull KR are reportedly on the look out for a hooker. We had better get Doyle and Smith tied into contracts before the Trawler Boys come calling again'"
Totally depends on promotion, can't see any player leaving a SL trinity out of choice anymore.
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| Quote ="Dr Dreadnought"Yep I knew that but today was the first time I'd seen a picture of him in that shirt! Horrible!
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I thought it seemed weird too, even weirder when Eseh came on against St Helens.
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| Quote ="vastman"Part of it, but not the only reason. Appleyard definitely wanted Dagger, that's certainly the main reason, I wouldn't argue with that. Whether people like it or not Dagger was actually the best signing Mash ever made, and if we had of stopped up, he'd have been far more instrumental in our survival than Hall. The team did improve on his arrival as far as I'm concerned. We actually didn't want to lose Hall if we could avoid it, but we simply couldn't afford to sign Dagger and pay a fee, so a player swap was our only option, and Hall was one of the players they were willing to take, they had us over a barrel. Part of the justification for Hall was the head issue he supposedly had at the time, and it was a position we could cover better than FB, where we were really struggling. People can blame Mash and Carter all they like, but there were very few options at the time.'"
Yeah, it's what I said earlier. Hull KR had made enquiries about Hall at the start of the season I think it was, so the club knew that was the only real asset they could use to potentially make a deal for Dagger. Unfortunately, we were a skint club and we had no other choice at the time, but like you say even though we lost a prospect, Dagger really did come through for us.
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| Know it's a quota spot, but Leigh are not renewing Ricky Leutele contract for some reason.
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| Now we are talking quality centres!
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Know it's a quota spot, but Leigh are not renewing Ricky Leutele contract for some reason.'"
Good for Leigh but if we had a quota spot I wouldn’t be wasting it on a soon to be 35 year old centre whose current team isn’t interested in keeping. One who I think only a time ago had an injury that kept him out a while I read. No thanks. The few times I’ve seen him this year he’s been ok but not great. Rather keep Thornley another year.
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| Knew he'd had an injury but I wouldn't have guessed he was that age.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Good for Leigh but if we had a quota spot I wouldn’t be wasting it on a soon to be 35 year old centre whose current team isn’t interested in keeping. One who I think only a time ago had an injury that kept him out a while I read. No thanks. The few times I’ve seen him this year he’s been ok but not great. Rather keep Thornley another year.
If we end up with a spot there would be much younger and better players to consider. But again, we don’t have a quota spot for 2025.'"
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| Quote ="FOREVERTRIN"Knew he'd had an injury but I wouldn't have guessed he was that age.'"
Don't think we need to worry about centres. As far as I'm concerned Pratt is a future international, whilst Joe Law has a brilliant attitude and is already a decent player, whilst Thornley has another SL year left in him and with the return of Hall, that's sorted for me.
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