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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"This season: Fitz (SOO - 11 caps, Aussie rep - 19 caps) O'Meley (SOO - 10 caps, Aussie rep - 15 caps) Berrigan (SOO - 13 caps, Aussie rep - 13 caps), Yak (4 Aussie GF's, a WCC winners medal and a premiership)
are our Aussies.
In the past we've had some poor ones e.g. Todd Bryne who I admit offerred nothing more than a British player would but atleast he somewhat made it in the NRL with over 100 apperances. Dykes was also an iffy signing because of his injuries but there was no doubting his class.
Compare this to some of your Aussie in Ben Fisher, Dobson and Lovegrove who are all NRL rejects who couldn't even break in to their respective first teams for one year.'"
What about your other overseas players? or don't they count because they are crap
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"What about your other overseas players? or don't they count because they are crap'"
Moa and Hame? Hame has played about 70 games in the NRL so hardly a reject, 15th in tackle busts despite playing limited time. Moa is relatively unknown however it's well known England fail to produce impact props and we have to bridge the gap with overseas players.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Moa and Hame? Hame has played about 70 games in the NRL so hardly a reject, 15th in tackle busts despite playing limited time. Moa is relatively unknown however it's well known England fail to produce impact props and we have to bridge the gap with overseas players.'"
So its ok for you to bridge any gaps with overseas players? Yet we do it and its a crime on a par with Hitler
Fisher - Helped us get promoted and has been a fixture in the side for the last 5 years
Lovegrove - Signed when nobody else wanted to sign for us in 2007 (including British players on loan)
Dobson - Made the Super League dream team and is the current Albert Goldthorpe medal holder.
And I don't know why you all worry, these players will all be eligible for England soon
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"So its ok for you to bridge any gaps with overseas players? Yet we do it and its a crime on a par with Hitler'"
The point is some of your current overseas players are very average, have no experince to pass on and clog up the system for young English players who could offer the same and potentially more.
I can name atleast 10 English hookers who are better than Fisher:
Diskin, Roby, Moore, Lunt, Robinson, Houghton, Godwin, Clarke, Higham, Hudson
and atleast 10 English props who are better than Lovegrove:
Peacock, Morley, Carvell, LMS, Scuton, Fielden, Lynch, Griffin, Mason, Harrison.
Yet despite this you are (alledgedly) asking for dispension again.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Moa and Hame? Hame has played about 70 games in the NRL so hardly a reject, 15th in tackle busts despite playing limited time. Moa is relatively unknown however it's well known England fail to produce impact props and we have to bridge the gap with overseas players.'"
ha ha the hypocriscy is overwhelming!
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Moa and Hame? Hame has played about 70 games in the NRL so hardly a reject, 15th in tackle busts despite playing limited time. Moa is relatively unknown =#000000however it's well known England fail to produce impact props and we have to bridge the gap with overseas players.'"
Quote ="Matty_HullFC"=#000000and atleast 10 English props who are better than Lovegrove:
Peacock, Morley, Carvell, LMS, Scuton, Fielden, Lynch, Griffin, Mason, Harrison.'"
So which one is it?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"it's a bizarre argument.
All you seem to do is bring hull fc into it.'"
maybe because the thread was started by an fc fan hkr have overseas players,so do hull fc.
i don't see what the problem is hear!! ohh by the way so do most super league teams.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"The point is some of your current overseas players are very average, have no experince to pass on and clog up the system for young English players who could offer the same and potentially more.
I can name atleast 10 English hookers who are better than Fisher:
Diskin, Roby, Moore, Lunt, Robinson, Houghton, Godwin, Clarke, Higham, Hudson
and atleast 10 English props who are better than Lovegrove:
Peacock, Morley, Carvell, LMS, Scuton, Fielden, Lynch, Griffin, Mason, Harrison.
Yet despite this you are (alledgedly) asking for dispension again.'"
maybe they are better players,but untill they sign for rovers we will just have to make do.
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| Quote ="wilde-robin"maybe because the thread was started by an fc fan
hkr have overseas players,so do hull fc.
i don't see what the problem is hear!! ohh by the way so do most super league teams.'"
so what? If you want to discuss hull fc quota start another thread.
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| Can I just say these average nrl rejects that we have I remember a few teams wanted not so long ago for instance dobson on loan at Wigan Catalan and a club I can't think for the life of me so nearly had him signed that we snatched right under there noses now let me think who could it be perhaps the nrl reject called Webster that signed for a team on a short term contract as well now who the heck was it please someone help me answer this one
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"Can I just say these average nrl rejects that we have I remember a few teams wanted not so long ago for instance dobson on loan at Wigan Catalan and a club I can't think for the life of me so nearly had him signed that we snatched right under there noses now let me think who could it be perhaps the nrl reject called Webster that signed for a team on a short term contract as well now who the heck was it please someone help me answer this one'"
nobody can understand you.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"nobody can understand you.'"
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| is that all you can come up with is that because iam right i think so
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"is that all you can come up with is that because iam right i think so'"
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"is that all you can come up with is that because iam right i think so'"
what?
This thread isn't about hull fc, it's about hull kr potentially have 10 overseas players next season.
Why do you feel the need to bring hull fc into everything?
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| like you do with us or have you forgot that a fc fan started this thread but i was mearly pointing out a fact that your saying that dobson and co are nrl rejects yet you was so close to signing this so called reject and before we signed him he was going to be the best thing since sliced bread for fc to how you can put answer all your prayers and how he would lead your club and take you forward yet when he signs for us he is mearly this average nrl reject
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| No I didn't.
I don't mind which overseas players a club signs as long as they stay at a decent number, 5 is enough IMO, your just wittering on in fact I've never seen a relevent post off you or one I could fully understand.
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| ok lets keep it on HKR if you insist. Is having 10 imports a good thing for ENgland in the Int game? No. Is it a good thing for SL? maybe depending on how competitve it makes a possible otherwise weak team. Is it a good thing for HKR? Depends if it brings them success.
There you go all answered, here endeth the thread.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"No I didn't.
I don't mind which overseas players a club signs as long as they stay at a decent number, 5 is enough IMO, your just wittering on in fact I've never seen a relevent post off you or one I could fully understand.'"
Fitzgibbon
O'Meley
Cusack
Berrigan
Manu
Luiaki
Moa
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Fitzgibbon
O'Meley
Cusack
Berrigan
Manu
Luiaki
Moa
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I don't get your point?
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| Oh and Smokey, what are the quota regulations for this season and how many overseas players do leeds have?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"so what? If you want to discuss hull fc quota start another thread.'"
why would i want too start a thread on that team for??? im not a sad bitter rugby fan!
hull kr have 1 more overseas player then fc, so what's the problem here???
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| Quote ="Sheldon"what?
This thread isn't about hull fc, it's about hull kr potentially have 10 overseas players next season.
Why do you feel the need to bring hull fc into everything?'"
why dont you wait until hull kr sign 2 more overseas players before you start your bitter little rant??
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| Quote ="wilde-robin"why dont you wait until hull kr sign 2 more overseas players before you start your bitter little rant??'"
what rant and why would I be bitter?
I did use the potentially.
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| Quote ="the artist"[ugood thread this, quite rare to see a sensible discussion between mainly hull and rovers supporters[/u. as far as im concerned i dont have a problem with rovers or any other club doing this as long as its in the rules. the rfl can't bleat about clubs having too many overseas players if they create the rules whereby clubs can take advantage of certain loopholes. if they are serious about the international game they should put the ground rules in place to prevent clubs taking on too many overseas players.
and its also interesting that as the aussie dollar strenghtens against the pound, less of the 'average' players want to come over anyway.
the other point about the overseas vs homegrown debate is of course that the aussies don't have anything like the amount of young sportsmen 'lost' to football as we do over here'"
And then you jinxed it...
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