thats not the perception though

everyone seems to think union, even club union is so much bigger than rl

when i point out that rl gets similar club crowds and better tv ratings they are in shock

i was talking to a friend whose a union head

he was trying to tell me today that rl in england isnt played in schools

that ru is way bigger etc

Tell your friend he's talking tosh. Rugby League is still played in schools in the UK, and i think i'm right in saying that 26 ot the 32 London borough's have Rugby League played in their schools. its only a matter of before Harlequins RL put out a side which are all products of London Rugby League schools and the surrounding counties. its coming Dally and you heard it hear first.

What's the point?

really?......you're claiming to be the first to say this are you? er...OK



I also like the way that when I asked for PROOF that my advertisers had been lied to regarding TV figures for the RUWC all I got was you and dally having a chat......but no proof. If you can't show me proof that the IRB/RUWC lied, I suggest you stop posting it...because it just makes you look as stupid as each other.

you believe that 4 billon people watched the last union world cup

?
your

if you do.

It was at that point I realised you were telling lies Dally Huddersfield and I totally disregarded the rest of your post

It was a huge mistake,instead of putting 4 million he put a 4 billion......

Quote ="GutterFax"Please....proof of this figure of 30 million, I have advertisers who would like to know exactly how they have been lied to.......starting with VISA.'" Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million. www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html There are other discrepancies with the irb methodology as well. The use of the phrase potential reach to mean actual or live reach and stating that the 2007 went live into 238 Countries being the most obvious. I am surprised that a person involved with marketing doesn’t know how potential reach is guestimated. Would you/ do you put any faith in the culmulative figures? Should they include re-runs, repeats and, so Im told, snippets shown on the TV news ?. The ruwc is getting good numbers and yet the irb feel the need to lie, so badly. Maybe you could ask your clients to find out why. Anyhoo, it appears that Dally was quite correct to suggest the 2007 ruwc final had a television audience of just over 30 million.

Quote ="GutterFax"Please....proof of this figure of 30 million, I have advertisers who would like to know exactly how they have been lied to.......starting with VISA.'" Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million. www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html There are other discrepancies with the irb methodology as well. The use of the phrase potential reach to mean actual or live reach and stating that the 2007 went live into 238 Countries being the most obvious. I am surprised that a person involved with marketing doesn’t know how potential reach is guestimated. Would you/ do you put any faith in the culmulative figures? Should they include re-runs, repeats and, so Im told, snippets shown on the TV news ?. The ruwc is getting good numbers and yet the irb feel the need to lie, so badly. Maybe you could ask your clients to find out why. Anyhoo, it appears that Dally was quite correct to suggest the 2007 ruwc final had a television audience of just over 30 million.

thank you for your input

excellent analysis

weve finally dispelled the IRB BS of 4 billion and from hereon we should use the figure of 30 - 40 million as the real one

Quote ="joedynamo"Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million. www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html'" Thanks for that. It does go some way to removing the smoke and mirrors used, not just by the IRB, but many other sports organisations and the TV networks that show them.......but obviously not far enough to stop the global brands like VISA throwing money at the game of Union. Quote ="dally messenger"thank you for your input excellent analysis weve finally dispelled the IRB BS of 4 billion and from hereon we should use the figure of 30 - 40 million as the real one'" actually no, joedynamo hasn't dispelled anything.......and the fact that you said "we" shows you up as being a bit sad. What we have here is an article that states it is pretty much impossible for 4 billion to have watched the RUWC......and the irony is, the thread that this article has been posted 9,000,000 <SNIGGER>

Quote ="joedynamo"Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million. www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html'" Thanks for that. It does go some way to removing the smoke and mirrors used, not just by the IRB, but many other sports organisations and the TV networks that show them.......but obviously not far enough to stop the global brands like VISA throwing money at the game of Union. Quote ="dally messenger"thank you for your input excellent analysis weve finally dispelled the IRB BS of 4 billion and from hereon we should use the figure of 30 - 40 million as the real one'" actually no, joedynamo hasn't dispelled anything.......and the fact that you said "we" shows you up as being a bit sad. What we have here is an article that states it is pretty much impossible for 4 billion to have watched the RUWC......and the irony is, the thread that this article has been posted 9,000,000 <SNIGGER>

I never said 4 billion watched anything...I asked for proof that advertisers were being lied to. If you want to try and be clever, try harder


There is a poster on here though why HAS CLAIMED 9,000,000 as a viewing figure for an NRL promotional trailer......maybe you should try to have a pop at him.

I'm only a tradesman,not a person that's been to university.So, I'm trying atleast lol....



It will reach 9 million by the end of the year lol...

Quote ="joedynamo"Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million. www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html There are other discrepancies with the irb methodology as well. The use of the phrase potential reach to mean actual or live reach and stating that the 2007 went live into 238 Countries being the most obvious. I am surprised that a person involved with marketing doesn’t know how potential reach is guestimated. Would you/ do you put any faith in the culmulative figures? Should they include re-runs, repeats and, so Im told, snippets shown on the TV news ?. Welcome back eels fan The ruwc is getting good numbers and yet the irb feel the need to lie, so badly. Maybe you could ask your clients to find out why. Anyhoo, it appears that Dally was quite correct to suggest the 2007 ruwc final had a television audience of just over 30 million.'"

Quote ="joedynamo"Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million. www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html There are other discrepancies with the irb methodology as well. The use of the phrase potential reach to mean actual or live reach and stating that the 2007 went live into 238 Countries being the most obvious. I am surprised that a person involved with marketing doesn’t know how potential reach is guestimated. Would you/ do you put any faith in the culmulative figures? Should they include re-runs, repeats and, so Im told, snippets shown on the TV news ?. Welcome back eels fan The ruwc is getting good numbers and yet the irb feel the need to lie, so badly. Maybe you could ask your clients to find out why. Anyhoo, it appears that Dally was quite correct to suggest the 2007 ruwc final had a television audience of just over 30 million.'"

Nope.

Sorry Bazza.

Which year

Real figure watching RUWC final - 33 million

> RU calculator >

4 billion

3.3 million watching an origin game >>>

RU calculator >>>>

160 million viewers

I think every man and his dog were counted to watch the final of the RUWC...

the year of the never ever!!!!!!

so....RL uses a different system to declare viewing figures


I am going to get one of my staff to check on the major brand sponsors for the NRL teams, the S15 teams and all the international Rugby teams of both codes.....now, I don't want to jump the gun here, but I reckon I know the result


Localised hobby.....which I think is the better game BTW....or Union?
9,000,000 views......

Shame you didnt get someone to check on the veracity of the irb's 4Bn figure which was obtained using a methodology that even FIFA realised was wrong.
But then you knew that, didnt you?


..sponsorships given partly on dodgy, some would say misleading, numbers.

Yea, you and a mod of this ere parish take time to run RL down beacuse you like the game? - makes sense to you guys, I suppose...


Good when union market thier sport, but baaaaaaad when Rugby League does it - Gotchya.

:210w6hne

Had no cause to. I never stated 4,000,000,000 people watched the RUWC.......it was a figure that dull massager and other, now ex-posters kept rolling out.....I just asked for proof that it was incorrect.
of course I did. But dully et al kept on nibbling without providing any proof.

..yep, that's right. VISA, RBS etc all throw cash at Union based on false figures.....it's a global conspiracy......

Believe me, every penny spent on advertising, promotion, sponsorship etc is scrutinised and has to be accounted for. Some would say the figures that we see are misleading.....other would say that the heads of these global organisations know exactly what they are doing.


No..we don't run down RL.......we just point out that 99% of the stuff that dim messenger posts is inacurate and dull......like the 10,000,000 fb thread we find ourselves in at present......the actual figure has gone up to 17,345 likes now by the way....still some way to go



...nope. I work with and for both codes, as well as wendyball, netball and the bouncy version....they all have the ability to spin figures to suit their argument and each has their own agenda.
the way that dipstic messenger rants on about the other codes of Union and AFL being on the way out makes his posts an easy target...he really is a retard. If you scan back say, the last 6 months, you will find either he, or one of his now defunct buddies are the ones who first mention the other codes first......then when faced with reasoned debate, they roll out the Union Troll attack and barrage any poster who dares disagree with them. One even PM'd me 35 times in one day....suprised he doesn't post here any more.