Er yer the sport I have supported since 1966, once again sticks and stones from a plastic fan. Get back to Bootham Crescent.

You are confusing the sport with the RFL, they dont own the sport , they are not THE sport, they are just running it, into a fractured split sport at the moment, so what do you expect?

Plastic fan ey? Lovely stuff.

Just because I don't subscribe to the bat looney tunes conspiracies that the RFL is as corrupt as the Italian mafia, doesn't make me a plastic fan.

Sorry for being just a little bit rational. I know that must seem completely alien to you.

Er a good deal really?
How about it being a HUGE liability, you been to Odslum recently its not in that great a state. Who is going to pay for its upkeep now and just what will the Bulls be paying for their rent???
Like I say this is a dangerous precedent, really what are the RFL going to do with a stadium this big when its needs millions to make it as some say the Wembley of the North, its been tried before and has never come off, this with much bigger fish than the RFL note!

Maybe they aren't corrupt; maybe they are. How would we know? One thing is for certain, though, they did not go into this agreement to save Odsal. That's just spin and bollox. Had the sporting village idea come off, Odsal wouldn't exist today and the RFL wouldn't be remotely bothered by its lack of existence.

So while the RFL might not be corrupt, they do manage a naff line in spin.

Please explain your feelings then Mr Rational?
Come on, all you have done is 'mock me' get off your 'ooh its a fan that has opposite views to mine so lets just write some small insults shall we'??? What you got to say to justify this then?

Please explain your feelings then Mr Rational?
Come on, all you have done is 'mock me' get off your 'ooh its a fan that has opposite views to mine so lets just write some small insults shall we'??? What you got to say to justify this then?

Lets say they are about as open and honest as the North Korean regime eh.
They just do what they want they have total control and for many have got far too much control and are corrupt.

As I see it, The RFL bought Odsal, to stop developers from buying it and turfing out the Bulls. Nothing has actually changed for Bradford, apart from who they make the cheque for the rent to.

They might have a more secure future and a more understanding landlord, but they haven't been bailed out of anything.

No corruption, no secret agendas. Just a decent bit of business for the RFL.

Bless.

Who said the council has sold the stadium?

I do not for one minute believe they have.

I believe the Bulls have probably sold - or transferred - the long leasehold to the RFL. So it is now the RFL that has the long lease with the council. With the council's blessing.

What then follows, regarding the new underlease and its terms, is - I suspect - all a matter of cashflow timing, to stop a club with no sugar daddy from going out of business and buy it some time to get the long term on a more sound footing.

I suppose the RFL COULD see the club go into Administration, which could mean - like Wakey and London and Crusaders and Widnes various non-SL clubs - a big loss to the taxpayer and to other suppliers. You know, the route that allows a phoenix to rise, free of its obligations and liabilities? The way the RFL has allowed numerous clubs to do? Something that, as a taxpayer, I could consider a disgrace. Or maybe all the parties regard that as the last thing the game needs right now, and if it can be avoided then all well and good?

I also don't expect the RFL to be more than a temporary landlord. Same as at some other clubs.

Incidentally, I must have missed somewhere the mechanism by which "other clubs' fans" pay some sort of a levy to the RFL for them to use (or abuse)?

Have the RFL used cash ( that would be earning interest ) ?

Have the RFL borrowed ( that will incur interest ) ?

Who will stand this cost?

3 simple questions

I don't know.

The RFL

Nobody. But the RFL has clearly stated that it has bought the stadium. It hasn't said that it has bought the leasehold to the stadium; but that it has bought the stadium. Who owned the stadium to sell it? The Council? If the Council owned the stadium then they must have sold it in order for it to have been bought by the RFL.


Now you're being silly. We all pay into the pot. If we buy a ticket for the CC final or for an international, for example, we pay into the pot.

All sounds very admirable BUT lots of conortations for the rest of our sport, so the RFL are paying the lease to the Council???
As for subsidised try the Championship clubs getting nothing from the RFL like the Premier Sports deal - nowt.
Yet they have given you money to pay rent for Odsal or have given somebody money somewhere either way???
To me thats a subsidy at other clubs expense simple as.
Hey I have no wish to see a fellow RL club go out of business but where did all your money go in your heyday, did you ever do owt to help your struggling neighbours like us and Keighley when you put a huge nail almost in our coffins by taking fans away from those towns by poaching them actively doing so too?? Also lots of other clubs have had to almost die to get any kind of help and usually only a small amount from the RFL.
This is a Bradford Bulls problem not the RFLs, short term help yer but not taking on a ground or as you are saying ground lease, look how many RL clubs there are could the RFL afford to pay all of them??
No.

If you are going to pass opinion you should know

1 possibly

2 possibly

But one of them is a definate

3 either the RFL, or the Bradford Bulls, but one of them is a definate

So either the Bulls rent has gone up, or the RFL are bailing them out with money that should be going elsewhere

But surely they have been bailed out.

They’ve been bailed out of losing their ground

Oh the irony, the RFL buy Odsal, what happened to a level playing field?

Good news IMO, imagine Odsal in ten years time with a roof that goes all the way around it - not only would it look pretty epic from above, but it would also keep people from freezing their nads off in the rain!

Explain how we were going to lose our ground, please?

When we held a long lease?

You have a spare 30 million lying around, do you?

If the RFL IS, it is a peppercorn rental - that means something like £1 a year.

Where has anyone said Bulls are being given money to pay rent for Odsal?

As I said a few pages ago, if you weren't gonna lose your ground then the RFL reasons for buying whatever they have bought are false and what other reason was there for their move other than to bail you out?

If you had a lease, you could not be evicted, so why agree to let them sell?

If you had a lease with a guaranteed peppercorn rent, why agree to let them sell?

You really dont get it, do you?

The RFL have stated BBRLFC will be paying the market rate in rent. I would imagine that the market rate for somewhere the size of Odsall is considerably more than £1 a year!