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| Well done Locky.
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| Happy for Darren. A true servant to the game. We've been terrible though.
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| Great kick locky!
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| LOCKYER!
HAHAHAHAH! That is magic.
HAHAHHAHAHAHH! That conversion wasn't!
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| Fantastic to see Lockyer score on his farewell. Without doubt one of the greatest rugby players I've ever had the pleasure of watching.
Different mind-set from the Aussies. They play basic rugby then once the opposition have settled into that they come up with something special. Endless patience from 1 to 17 which compared with our headless chicken approach looks so clinical and ruthless.
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| saying this was one of the weakest australian teams, they seemed to play like real champions, we looked like rabbit in the headlights and panicked far too often.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Fantastic to see Lockyer score on his farewell. '"
Once the result wasn't in doubt, you couldn't begrudge him that.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"saying this was one of the weakest australian teams, they seemed to play like real champions, we looked like rabbit in the headlights and panicked far too often.'"
Indeed. I don't think this Australian team is as week as people make out, people are just determined to detract from any English improvement.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Indeed. Sheens has got his tactics absolutely spot on, as much as it pains me to say it. Restricted us big style (that is if we ever had any illusions of passing the ball about a bit).
Unfortunately we struggle in the backs for quality, as was said before the tournament. I was flamed for daring to suggest Briscoe wasn't as good as people claim he is at the start of the season, and this performance has summed his talents up. Same goes for Yeaman. Although, I cannot see any English players coming through that can live with the Australian backs. Sheer class, a threat every time they get the ball.'"
Lol Briscoe.
I was flamed for saying Briscoe was terrible returning the ball after game 1, accused of being biased, shouted down as being retarded. Told he had tons of line breaks - Turns out he had 1, the least in the england backs.
Same game I said I'd never seen anyone as slow as him. Told I was an idiot........ He was chased down the next game by SIMON MANNERING.
Briscoe is a myth. But don't let the rlfans here you say it, or they'll call a psychiatric doctor to your house
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| Should never have taken that penalty to make it 8-8
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| Briscoe & Yeaman aren't good enough, Sinfield & Jones-Buchanan made far too many mistakes and looked generally clueless.
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| Quote ="r a n c i d"Lol Briscoe.
I was flamed for saying Briscoe was terrible returning the ball after game 1, accused of being biased, shouted down as being retarded. Told he had tons of line breaks - Turns out he had 1, the least in the england backs.
Same game I said I'd never seen anyone as slow as him. Told I was an idiot........ He was chased down the next game by SIMON MANNERING.
Briscoe is a myth. But don't let the rlfans here you say it, or they'll call a psychiatric doctor to your house
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You've never seen anyone slower than him? What a ridiculous statement, that's why people tell you you're an idiot.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Indeed. Sheens has got his tactics absolutely spot on, as much as it pains me to say it. Restricted us big style (that is if we ever had any illusions of passing the ball about a bit).
Unfortunately we struggle in the backs for quality, as was said before the tournament. I was flamed for daring to suggest Briscoe wasn't as good as people claim he is at the start of the season, and this performance has summed his talents up. Same goes for Yeaman. Although, I cannot see any English players coming through that can live with the Australian backs. Sheer class, a threat every time they get the ball.'"
Briscoe is capable of some brilliant things, but he still needs to learn to read the game a bit. I dont think he did too much wrong tonight though. He was left in no mans land a few times in defence and never even got a sniff of a chance in attack. He carried the ball ok off our line.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Briscoe & Yeaman aren't good enough, Sinfield & Jones-Buchanan made far too many mistakes and looked generally clueless.'"
Disagree. Briscoe is good enough, he didn't play well tonight but neither did plenty of players - Tomkins was terrible but he and Briscoe are clearly good enough. Chase was much, much worse than Sinfield.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"saying this was one of the weakest australian teams, they seemed to play like real champions, we looked like rabbit in the headlights and panicked far too often.'"
One of the weakest Australian teams? Give your head a wobble.
Carvell, Westwood and JJB stood up when it mattered but we shot ourselves in the foot. We've had a good overall tournament, beating the previous Four Nations holders and the World Champions and we really need to grab hold of the positives and move on. We lost but for the first time in a long long time many people thought we could beat Australia tonight.
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| Thurston(especially) Lockyer and Smith controlled the game with ease and untill we get some top quality half backs we're going to struggle like this.
A quality kicking game would of made a huge difference, instead it was Australia who continually pinned us back and we could never build any pressure.
Absolutely gutted but there are some positives to take from this tournament(Hammering the World and 4N champions the best) and hopefully we can bring some half backs through before the world cup in 2013.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Briscoe & Yeaman aren't good enough, Sinfield & Jones-Buchanan made far too many mistakes and looked generally clueless.'"
Agree with all that, add Chase and Peacock into the mix, time for Morley to to be put out to pasture, Wilkin tried hard but isn't up to the standard required.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"One of the weakest Australian teams? Give your head a wobble.
Carvell, Westwood and JJB stood up when it mattered but we shot ourselves in the foot. We've had a good overall tournament, beating the previous Four Nations holders and the World Champions and we really need to grab hold of the positives and move on. We lost but for the first time in a long long time many people thought we could beat Australia tonight.'"
JJB was responsible for two glaring errors that put us out of the game when it was still a contest, after that we were never in it, he should not be considered again.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Agree with all that, add Chase and Peacock into the mix, time for Morley to to be put out to pasture, Wilkin tried hard but isn't up to the standard required.'"
Peacock clearly wasn't fit this evening, he should have been man enough to put his hand up and withdraw. I would have rather seen Bailey play.
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| they just froze. they didnt play as a team which was the biggest hope going into this match. also what happened to sam. he was well marked, then just folded for the rest of the match.
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| That seems completely irrelevant now.
EDIT: Sorry, meant to be in reply to "mintie mouse". I'm blaming iPhone.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"icon_lol.gif You've never seen anyone slower than him? What a ridiculous statement, that's why people tell you you're an idiot.'"
Using exaggerations to emphasise a point is not idiotic - Failing to recognise as an exaggeration is.
(I just implied you were an idiot, in case you missed it)
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| Quote ="the wrestler"they just froze. they didnt play as a team which was the biggest hope going into this match. also what happened to sam. he was well marked, then just folded for the rest of the match.'"
Tomkins was marked out of the game, in that situation Chase, Roby, Sinfield someone has to take advantage and step up but none did.
I agree with your point about not playing as a team, we were very disfunctional and that mainly falls on Sinfields shoulders, he chose some very poor options tonight and why did we persist in kicking on the 4th tackle when we were being starved of possession.
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| if your spine of the team 6,7,9 can't creat the moves your not going to win simple as that we never had any back moves it was just inside ball back to ruck and it never worked. o'well time to move on the RFL need to look at a mid season warm up so the spine of the team can gell for the world cup.
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