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| Quote ="dally messenger"yeah but even counting the viewers 4 times it only comes out to 700 million.
thats how far off the truth they are.
the real figure is only 175 million, and thats a cumulative figure for every game played
using the union method 3.3 million people watching an origin game becomes 160 million!
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Basically when union claim the figures they do its a smoke and mirrors job.
are you aware that on average Rugby League games on Sky TV in the UK draws bigger TV audiences than union games?
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| As far as live sport goes League is 3rd behind Soccer and International Cricket in the UK, which is pretty much what you'd expect out of the 3.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"bit like the RUWC being watched by 4 billion when the real figure is like 30 million watching the final'"
even 30 million sounds to much for yawnion...
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| Quote ="Harrigan"As far as live sport goes League is 3rd behind Soccer and International Cricket in the UK, which is pretty much what you'd expect out of the 3.'"
thats not the perception though
everyone seems to think union, even club union is so much bigger than rl
when i point out that rl gets similar club crowds and better tv ratings they are in shock
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| i was talking to a friend whose a union head
he was trying to tell me today that rl in england isnt played in schools
that ru is way bigger etc
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| Quote ="dally messenger"i was talking to a friend whose a union head
he was trying to tell me today that rl in england isnt played in schools
that ru is way bigger etc'"
Tell your friend he's talking tosh. Rugby League is still played in schools in the UK, and i think i'm right in saying that 26 ot the 32 London borough's have Rugby League played in their schools. its only a matter of before Harlequins RL put out a side which are all products of London Rugby League schools and the surrounding counties. its coming Dally and you heard it hear first.
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| What's the point?
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"its only a matter of before Harlequins RL put out a side which are all products of London Rugby League schools and the surrounding counties. its coming Dally and you heard it hear first.'"
really?......you're claiming to be the first to say this are you? er...OK
I also like the way that when I asked for PROOF that my advertisers had been lied to regarding TV figures for the RUWC all I got was you and dally having a chat......but no proof. If you can't show me proof that the IRB/RUWC lied, I suggest you stop posting it...because it just makes you look as stupid as each other.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"icon_lol.gif
really?......you're claiming to be the first to say this are you? er...OK
I also like the way that when I asked for PROOF that my advertisers had been lied to regarding TV figures for the RUWC all I got was you and dally having a chat......but no proof. If you can't show me proof that the IRB/RUWC lied, I suggest you stop posting it...because it just makes you look as stupid as each other.'"
you believe that 4 billon people watched the last union world cup ?
your if you do.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"i was talking to a [ufriend[/u........'"
It was at that point I realised you were telling lies Dally Huddersfield and I totally disregarded the rest of your post
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"you believe that 4 billon people watched the last union world cup
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your
if you do.'" It was a huge mistake,instead of putting 4 million he put a 4 billion......
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Quote ="GutterFax"Please....proof of this figure of 30 million, I have advertisers who would like to know exactly how they have been lied to.......starting with VISA.'"
Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million.
www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html
There are other discrepancies with the irb methodology as well. The use of the phrase potential reach to mean actual or live reach and stating that the 2007 went live into 238 Countries being the most obvious.
I am surprised that a person involved with marketing doesn’t know how potential reach is guestimated. Would you/ do you put any faith in the culmulative figures? Should they include re-runs, repeats and, so Im told, snippets shown on the TV news ?.
The ruwc is getting good numbers and yet the irb feel the need to lie, so badly. Maybe you could ask your clients to find out why.
Anyhoo, it appears that Dally was quite correct to suggest the 2007 ruwc final had a television audience of just over 30 million.
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Quote ="GutterFax"Please....proof of this figure of 30 million, I have advertisers who would like to know exactly how they have been lied to.......starting with VISA.'"
Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million.
www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html
There are other discrepancies with the irb methodology as well. The use of the phrase potential reach to mean actual or live reach and stating that the 2007 went live into 238 Countries being the most obvious.
I am surprised that a person involved with marketing doesn’t know how potential reach is guestimated. Would you/ do you put any faith in the culmulative figures? Should they include re-runs, repeats and, so Im told, snippets shown on the TV news ?.
The ruwc is getting good numbers and yet the irb feel the need to lie, so badly. Maybe you could ask your clients to find out why.
Anyhoo, it appears that Dally was quite correct to suggest the 2007 ruwc final had a television audience of just over 30 million.
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| thank you for your input
excellent analysis
weve finally dispelled the IRB BS of 4 billion and from hereon we should use the figure of 30 - 40 million as the real one
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Quote ="joedynamo"Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million.
www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html'"
Thanks for that. It does go some way to removing the smoke and mirrors used, not just by the IRB, but many other sports organisations and the TV networks that show them.......but obviously not far enough to stop the global brands like VISA throwing money at the game of Union.
Quote ="dally messenger"thank you for your input
excellent analysis
weve finally dispelled the IRB BS of 4 billion and from hereon we should use the figure of 30 - 40 million as the real one'"
actually no, joedynamo hasn't dispelled anything.......and the fact that you said "we" shows you up as being a bit sad.
What we have here is an article that states it is pretty much impossible for 4 billion to have watched the RUWC......and the irony is, the thread that this article has been posted 9,000,000 <SNIGGER>
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Quote ="joedynamo"Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million.
www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html'"
Thanks for that. It does go some way to removing the smoke and mirrors used, not just by the IRB, but many other sports organisations and the TV networks that show them.......but obviously not far enough to stop the global brands like VISA throwing money at the game of Union.
Quote ="dally messenger"thank you for your input
excellent analysis
weve finally dispelled the IRB BS of 4 billion and from hereon we should use the figure of 30 - 40 million as the real one'"
actually no, joedynamo hasn't dispelled anything.......and the fact that you said "we" shows you up as being a bit sad.
What we have here is an article that states it is pretty much impossible for 4 billion to have watched the RUWC......and the irony is, the thread that this article has been posted 9,000,000 <SNIGGER>
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| Quote ="manly4ever"It was a huge mistake,instead of putting 4 million he put a 4 billion......'"
I never said 4 billion watched anything...I asked for proof that advertisers were being lied to. If you want to try and be clever, try harder
There is a poster on here though why HAS CLAIMED 9,000,000 as a viewing figure for an NRL promotional trailer......maybe you should try to have a pop at him.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I never said 4 billion watched anything...I asked for proof that advertisers were being lied to. If you want to try and be clever, try harder
There is a poster on here though why HAS CLAIMED 9,000,000 as a viewing figure for an NRL promotional trailer......maybe you should try to have a pop at him.
'" I'm only a tradesman,not a person that's been to university.So, I'm trying atleast lol....
It will reach 9 million by the end of the year lol...
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Quote ="joedynamo"Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million.
www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html
There are other discrepancies with the irb methodology as well. The use of the phrase potential reach to mean actual or live reach and stating that the 2007 went live into 238 Countries being the most obvious.
I am surprised that a person involved with marketing doesn’t know how potential reach is guestimated. Would you/ do you put any faith in the culmulative figures? Should they include re-runs, repeats and, so Im told, snippets shown on the TV news ?.
Welcome back eels fan
The ruwc is getting good numbers and yet the irb feel the need to lie, so badly. Maybe you could ask your clients to find out why.
Anyhoo, it appears that Dally was quite correct to suggest the 2007 ruwc final had a television audience of just over 30 million.'"
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Quote ="joedynamo"Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million.
www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html
There are other discrepancies with the irb methodology as well. The use of the phrase potential reach to mean actual or live reach and stating that the 2007 went live into 238 Countries being the most obvious.
I am surprised that a person involved with marketing doesn’t know how potential reach is guestimated. Would you/ do you put any faith in the culmulative figures? Should they include re-runs, repeats and, so Im told, snippets shown on the TV news ?.
Welcome back eels fan
The ruwc is getting good numbers and yet the irb feel the need to lie, so badly. Maybe you could ask your clients to find out why.
Anyhoo, it appears that Dally was quite correct to suggest the 2007 ruwc final had a television audience of just over 30 million.'"
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| Nope.
Sorry Bazza.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"I'm only a tradesman,not a person that's been to university.So, I'm trying atleast lol....
It will reach 9 million by the end of the year lol...'"
Which year
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Which year
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| Real figure watching RUWC final - 33 million
> RU calculator >
4 billion
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| 3.3 million watching an origin game >>>
RU calculator >>>>
160 million viewers
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| I think every man and his dog were counted to watch the final of the RUWC...
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Which year
'" the year of the never ever!!!!!!
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| Quote ="dally messenger"3.3 million watching an origin game >>>'"
so....RL uses a different system to declare viewing figures
I am going to get one of my staff to check on the major brand sponsors for the NRL teams, the S15 teams and all the international Rugby teams of both codes.....now, I don't want to jump the gun here, but I reckon I know the result
Localised hobby.....which I think is the better game BTW....or Union?
9,000,000 views......
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