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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"Finch wasn't the one who played game one when somebody pulled out scored a late drop failed to gain selection in game 3 in favour of Barrett didn't play origin again until 2006 he played game 1, was so bad in game 2 he was replaced by Craig Gower - and hasn't featured since - so 3 games of Origin some player.
When was Smith's form any good - he has been poor for the last two years he was at the Eels and he has been ousted by an 18 year old kid at Wigan his form is that poor - his defence is laughable.'"
1. finch kicked a winning field goal at origin
2. as i said above im pretty sure smith won the Dally M rookie of the year, his first year was brilliant, year 2 wasnt bad but alcohol problems wrecked it.
wrong on finch, wrong on smith, wrong on hindy.
hmmm
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| This site is poorer for some of the rubbish that swamps these threads.
There are posters that keep people away from this forum, I am almost there myself.
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| simple solution, if you dont like a thread, dont read it.
nobodies forcing you to poor dear.
and the bigger irony of your post is i started this thread.
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| You can't avoid it when you bring your trash into every thread and derail it
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| Quote ="Jonesy"This site is poorer for some of the rubbish that swamps these threads.
There are posters that keep people away from this forum, I am almost there myself.'"
It's not so difficult. Ignore Dally and a couple more and you'll be right as rain ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| I take it Ellis will not be released for the mid season test against France. Hopefully he has a good season playing against those aussie internationals.
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| Quote ="Dico"You can't avoid it when you bring your trash into every thread and derail it'"
every thread i post on eh?
more BS
others say they can ignore it, it must just be the less knowledgeable posters who feel insecure
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| you not been banned yet?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"so have you admitted you were a total idiot to make fun of hindys tackling given hes one of the best tacklers in the nrl.'"
You struggling to read or something? - what I said about Hindmarsh's tackling is exactly what the stats are saying - not sure what you are struggling to comprehend other than once again you have been proved wrong - in two games he has missed 13 tackles that is an average of over 6 a game - that does not support your claim that he hardly misses any tackles - so I am correct and you once again are wrong
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| Quote ="dally messenger"1. finch kicked a winning field goal at origin
2. as i said above im pretty sure smith won the Dally M rookie of the year, his first year was brilliant, year 2 wasnt bad but alcohol problems wrecked it.
wrong on finch, wrong on smith, wrong on hindy.
hmmm'"
Idiot - Finch has played three games of origin - the last of which was three years ago, Smith won the Dally M in 2005 - we are not talking about what these players were doing then we are talking about what these players are doing now - Smith is being kept out of a very poor Wigan side by an 18 year old rookie and Finch will only see origin if he were the last man standing. As for Hindmarsh see my earlier post
So I suggest that you are wrong on all three counts?
Now when are you going to give us the stats on the 30 tackles a game half backs?
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| good to see youve worked out finchy is an origin player.
well done
thats about the only sense in that post.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"You struggling to read or something? - what I said about Hindmarsh's tackling is exactly what the stats are saying - not sure what you are struggling to comprehend other than once again you have been proved wrong - in two games he has missed 13 tackles that is an average of over 6 a game - that does not support your claim that he hardly misses any tackles - so I am correct and you once again are wrong'"
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"you not been banned yet?'"
spud you are trolling another thread ive started.
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| oh the irony......
who's this 30 tackle a match 5/8th anyway?
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| spud because you dont have a sense of humour and are getting upset over this ill stop making fun of ER.
he can post whatever he likes about the nrl in this thread and you can agree with him
ill keep the laughter to myself and not make it public.
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| Gonna regret posting this. Hopefully these figures from the NRL's official stats people, Sportsdata will settle the inaccuracies posted when it comes to figures. Even the Canberra Times article is woefully wrong on Ellis.
Most tackles overall after 3 games: 1st. Hindmarsh 154, 7 missed, 9 ineffective
Ellis is 27th. with 86, 3 missed, 6 ineffective.
Half backs – Most tackles, Brett Kimmorley 74 (24.7 ave), 10 missed, 6 ineffective.
Chris Sandow FYI has missed 25 tackles already.
5/8th – Jarryd Hayne 67 tackles (22.3 ave), 3 missed, 5 ineffective
Matt Rogers has missed the most with 17.
So no halves at all at 30 tackles per game. Hindmarsh hasn't missed 13.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Gonna regret posting this. Hopefully these figures from the NRL's official stats people, Sportsdata will settle the inaccuracies posted when it comes to figures. Even the Canberra Times article is woefully wrong on Ellis.
Most tackles overall after 3 games: 1st. Hindmarsh 154, 7 missed, 9 ineffective
Ellis is 27th. with 86, 3 missed, 6 ineffective.
Half backs – Most tackles, Brett Kimmorley 74 (24.7 ave), 10 missed, 6 ineffective.
Chris Sandow FYI has missed 25 tackles already.
5/8th – Jarryd Hayne 67 tackles (22.3 ave), 3 missed, 5 ineffective
Matt Rogers has missed the most with 17.
So no halves at all at 30 tackles per game. Hindmarsh hasn't missed 13.'"
What is the difference between an ineffective tackle and a miss?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"good to see youve worked out finchy is an origin player.
well done
thats about the only sense in that post.
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It is to somebody unable to comprehend simple english - I mentioned Finch's Origin record in my second post on the subject - do you really have issues with simple english? why not just calm down and answer some of the points rather than avoiding all the arguements - that is bit a difficult given your inability to read ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| im assuming a miss is when you fall off, an ineffective may be if you are first into the collison but are not able to stop the players momentum and require another man to come in
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"It is to somebody unable to comprehend simple english - I mentioned Finch's Origin record in my second post on the subject - do you really have issues with simple english? why not just calm down and answer some of the points rather than avoiding all the arguements - that is bit a difficult given your inability to read
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look id really like to point out all the mistakes you make but spud is getting upset at the whole situation so for his peace of mind ill let you say what you want.
i mean i get my info from watching the nrl and listening to experts like NRL on Fox.
poor spud gets advice from you.
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| Quote ="Irregs #16"im assuming a miss is when you fall off, an ineffective may be if you are first into the collison but are not able to stop the players momentum and require another man to come in'"
I've always taken an ineffective tackle as being one where the attacking player gets an offload away. I don't know that for sure though.
154 tackles with 7 missed is an excellent statistic by any standard.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"What is the difference between an ineffective tackle and a miss?'"
Ineffective tackle means that they can get the ball away. ie offload.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"spud because you dont have a sense of humour and are getting upset over this ill stop making fun of ER.
he can post whatever he likes about the nrl in this thread and you can agree with him
ill keep the laughter to myself and not make it public.'"
oh i have a sense of humour....thats why i've pretty much stayed out of this one..i'm to busy laughing at what a idiot you are making of yourself ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"oh i have a sense of humour....thats why i've pretty much stayed out of this one..i'm to busy laughing at what a idiot you are making of yourself
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so wanting me to be banned is a sense of humour
right spud.
i enjoy my time on here.
its not my fault many people on here dont have a clue about the nrl.
even if it was a poster i thought was a dope, if they say something that i think is good ill give them credit.
but when people just post obvious BS, well, they get what they deserve
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| just to put it into perspective :
1. weve had the best tackler in the nrl critisised for his tackling technique and compared to mcguire. anyone that knows the first thing about the nrl knows nathan hindmarsh is the best tackler there.
i provided stats that show he does 50 tackles a game, i was told it was wrong. it wasnt wrong.
2. tim smiths form was laughed at. hes never done anything in the nrl. when i pointed out his nrl form was quite good, and indeed hed won the Dally M rookie of the year, the poster refused to listen.
3. brett finch was said to be a poor half back and danny mcguire better. when i reminded the person taht brett finch has not only played origin but also won them.
and if you go back to my original post, i didnt say mcguire was a bad player. all i said was i didnt think his defence was good enough for a 6 spot. many other people that seem to know about the nrl agreed with me.
ill conceed that halves and five eights make around 15 - 25 tackles a game, not the 30 i claimed.
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