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| Quote ="Bal"I must admit, I can't make head nor tail of what you are trying to say.'"
Seems to be saying if an opposition fan goads you it's ok to punch them in the nose.
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| The way I see it is like this:
Salford took 1000 fans. I estimate 400 entered the pitch at the end, overjoyed at pulling off the greatest of escapes. Most were celebrating amongst themselves, some also went to get a rise out of the home fans.
Some home fans ran on the pitch. They were not in a joyous frame of mind, so let's assume they went to confront the away fans.
Sporadic scuffles inevitably broke out. The instigators should be easy to identify - man, woman or minor, they need banning from the game.
The clubs need fining and Hull KR need to pay for more stewards/ police at games such as this in future.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"what gets me is the false outrage on forums'"
Fortunately for you and your nonsensical point people are legitimately outraged by it.
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| Quote Celebrating on the field, whilst I don't condone it, isn't exactly a scandal.'"
Just illegal
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Seems to be saying if an opposition fan goads you it's ok to punch them in the nose.'"
If your going to goad fans in that pressure cooker situation you can't be surprised if someone gives you a crack ,cue over the top reaction by certain posters
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| Quote ="vastman"Why don't you "grow up" and do us all a favour and join the real world, sick of reading your sanctimonious crap.'"
Don't worry I'm sure wakey fans will start misbehaving again soon, don't want to be outdone n all that?
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| Quote ="meast"Don't worry I'm sure wakey fans will start misbehaving again soon, don't want to be outdone n all that?
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A hint of crowd trouble and up you pop like the grim reaper. How bizarre you are.
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| a hint? fair enough then i must be seeing different things to people who think fighting is an acceptable part of the game.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Just illegal'"
Not sure it is actually.
It's illegal to enter the field at a "designated sporting event". However, my understanding is that only football is deemed to be a "designated event".
Entering the field of play may be against the stadium regulations, but I don't think it's a criminal offence.
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| Quote ="meast"a hint? fair enough then i must be seeing different things to people who think fighting is an acceptable part of the game.'"
It wouldn't have happened if there had been any kind of thought or planning gone into policing, segregating and stewarding the fans. You could see even from the tv it was non existant. Nobody is condoning it but when emotions are running that high from one end of the spectrum to the other this was an incident waiting to happen. Hopefully this is lesson learned for next year, and people's safety won't be taken so lightly.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Seems to be saying if an opposition fan goads you it's ok to punch them in the nose.'"
It shouldn't be allowed to get to that stage but unfortunately due to poor stewards/security it does happen and if you're going to continually goad opposition fans that's what they must be wanting and deserve. Any trouble or potential trouble should be nipped in the bud early to stop it escalating but often isn't, that's the problem.
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| Quote ="meast"Not quite the same, but similar circumstances, and yet not one Huddersfield fan ran onto the pitch last week, so maybe it's the mindset of certain supporters?'"
That's because Huddersfield is a soulless plastic club with no passion
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"It shouldn't be allowed to get to that stage but unfortunately due to poor stewards/security it does happen and if you're going to continually goad opposition fans that's what they must be wanting and deserve. Any trouble or potential trouble should be nipped in the bud early to stop it escalating but often isn't, that's the problem.'"
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| Is this thread still going? Jeez
Such a shame the excellent ending to the game has been forgotten. Typical rl fans concentrate on any negatives
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"That's because Huddersfield is a soulless plastic club with no passion'"
No, their fan is clearly very passionate and he has plenty of space around him at home games so he never has a crossed word with anyone
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| Has made one of the main articles on ITV Regional news tonight. Poorly reported IMO and as disgusting as the scenes were it certainly wasn't a balanced report and basically blamed all the trouble on Salford fans when there were clearly both sets of fans involved and to blame.
Going back to the pitch invasion, I'm sorry but it has been going on for years and it will continue to do so in venues where there isn't sufficient stewarding/policing. Watch any lower league football play off game/relegation decider and it inevitably ends in a pitch invasion. If anyone can mention a rugby league match with such a ridiculous ending as Saturday I'll buy you a pint. And it's easy for fans of successful clubs to mock but imagine supporting a team that's been a shower of e for pretty much 30 years. Salford get relegated on Saturday and their future is seriously in doubt. 78 minutes gone and the final nail is being lined up for the coffin... you're distraught, this could be the end of the club you love as you know it. Then a miracle happens, think Nou Camp 99, THAT Aguero goal or Jimmy Glass for Carlisle. The players go mental, the fans want to celebrate that moment with them and 99% of fans celebrate peacefully. A lot of Salford fans can be seen commiserating the HKR players as well which has barely been mentioned. But hey, any other teams fans would just stand there motionless and give an extra tap on their drum as a sign of what a jolly splendid afternoon they've had eh?
Throw the book at anyone involved in the fighting from both sides, it's deplorable and they're n0bheads the lot of them. Don't demonise a club and a whole set of fans though.
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| It would seem that 3 people have been arrested,thus far,and it seems to suggest that twice as many Hull people have been arrested in contrast to the 1 Salford follower.
A sign of things to come,possibly...
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| Quote ="Gadger"Is this thread still going? '"
Meast will drag it on as long as possible. He's the equivalent of a rubber necker at a car crash scene that one!
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Sad to see fans of other clubs desperately filled with false outrage of a bit of a nothing disturbance, hoping for points deduction, record fines, expulsion from the game, playing behind closed doors. Some people must lead very sheltered lives, You see fans goading other sets of fans then cry like babies to stewards send emails to the RFL get their phones out etc post on forums when they get a response, hoping that club gets fine etc. That's the mindset of some of the so called RL family.'"
Yes, let's just ignore the "nothing disturbance" that's exactly the way to prevent violence at games escalating. Let's not do anything that would force clubs to improve stewarding or weed out undesirables, or make those a little worse for drink think before they behave badly.
Can't wait to take my kids to games like the ones I visited in the bad old days where you were lucky if you just got bottles of pee thrown at you instead of bricks.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"Has made one of the main articles on ITV Regional news tonight. Poorly reported IMO and as disgusting as the scenes were it certainly wasn't a balanced report and basically blamed all the trouble on Salford fans when there were clearly both sets of fans involved and to blame.
Going back to the pitch invasion, I'm sorry but it has been going on for years and it will continue to do so in venues where there isn't sufficient stewarding/policing. Watch any lower league football play off game/relegation decider and it inevitably ends in a pitch invasion. If anyone can mention a rugby league match with such a ridiculous ending as Saturday I'll buy you a pint. And it's easy for fans of successful clubs to mock but imagine supporting a team that's been a shower of poop for pretty much 30 years. Salford get relegated on Saturday and their future is seriously in doubt. 78 minutes gone and the final nail is being lined up for the coffin... you're distraught, this could be the end of the club you love as you know it. Then a miracle happens, think Nou Camp 99, THAT Aguero goal or Jimmy Glass for Carlisle. The players go mental, the fans want to celebrate that moment with them and 99% of fans celebrate peacefully. A lot of Salford fans can be seen commiserating the HKR players as well which has barely been mentioned. But hey, any other teams fans would just stand there motionless and give an extra tap on their drum as a sign of what a jolly splendid afternoon they've had eh?
Throw the book at anyone involved in the fighting from both sides, it's deplorable and they're n0bheads the lot of them. Don't demonise a club and a whole set of fans though.'"
Majority of salford fans were celebrating, and rightly so.
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| Quote ="AntonyGiant"Original post seems to be aimed directly at Hull KR, but I'm sure Salford wouldn't of been innocent in it all.
Invading a pitch before the game had finished... After the game had finished and most likely goading the opposition fans is just as bad.
And you think no Salford fan threw a first punch or got into somebodies face. Doubt it.'" nobody condones the salford fans behaviour in this but the blame for poor policing and stewards lies soley with the home club . ps the situation is compounded by the reliably incompotent humberside police making only 2 arrests on the day
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"eusa_clap.gif Majority of salford fans were celebrating, and rightly so.'"
Was you there? A fair few Salford fans who ran onto the pitch came straight over to the east stand goading the KR fans onto the pitch. Both sets are equally to blame as each other.
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| Quote ="classov78"nobody condones the salford fans behaviour in this but the blame for poor policing and stewards lies soley with the home club . ps the situation is compounded by the reliably incompotent humberside police making only 2 arrests on the day'"
Hull City were at home to Chelsea and kicked off at the exact same time. I don't think you can blame Rovers for scheduling such an important game to kick off at the same time as a high profile Premiership game. No wonder the Police were stretched.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"That's because Huddersfield is a soulless plastic club with no passion'"
Glad you've told me that, i best not bother anymore then?
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"Has made one of the main articles on ITV Regional news tonight. Poorly reported IMO and as disgusting as the scenes were it certainly wasn't a balanced report and basically blamed all the trouble on Salford fans when there were clearly both sets of fans involved and to blame.
Going back to the pitch invasion, I'm sorry but it has been going on for years and it will continue to do so in venues where there isn't sufficient stewarding/policing. Watch any lower league football play off game/relegation decider and it inevitably ends in a pitch invasion. If anyone can mention a rugby league match with such a ridiculous ending as Saturday I'll buy you a pint. And it's easy for fans of successful clubs to mock but imagine supporting a team that's been a shower of poop for pretty much 30 years. Salford get relegated on Saturday and their future is seriously in doubt. 78 minutes gone and the final nail is being lined up for the coffin... you're distraught, this could be the end of the club you love as you know it. Then a miracle happens, think Nou Camp 99, THAT Aguero goal or Jimmy Glass for Carlisle. The players go mental, the fans want to celebrate that moment with them and 99% of fans celebrate peacefully. A lot of Salford fans can be seen commiserating the HKR players as well which has barely been mentioned. But hey, any other teams fans would just stand there motionless and give an extra tap on their drum as a sign of what a jolly splendid afternoon they've had eh?
Throw the book at anyone involved in the fighting from both sides, it's deplorable and they're n0bheads the lot of them. Don't demonise a club and a whole set of fans though.'"
Good post
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