|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 194 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Wigg'n"Ganson is no longer video referee for Leeds v Wigan. Ian Smith has been appointed.'"
That'll be his punishment dealt with then. Controversy over.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="flatcap"As described by Sam Tomkins - "the worst I've ever seen". I know who's opinion I'd rather trust.'"
The worst [ihe's[/i ever seen. I have no reason to disbelieve him. Just not quite the worst that [iI've[/i ever seen. The chances are slim that he and I have seen exactly the same games or exactly the same decisions.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="bren2k"This incident being defended as some kind of karmic levelling out process is only marginally less surprising than the incident itself; I guess it's the nature of pro sport to be prepared to accept a shonky win even after having been the poorer team for the whole game?
Of course I understand that there is no operational rule to overturn the result, but when a dozen camera angles, HD, super slo-mo and the rule-book itself clearly demonstrate that there has been an injustice, I believe there should be some recourse.'"
It's not being defended at all. You'd have to be quite daft to think that it was. Or someone who doesn't understand banter.
You're welcome to believe what you like, but the simple fact is that there has never been any such recourse and a moment or two thinking about the ramifications would be enough to show you why. There is a reason why the Operational Rules specifically rule out challenging a result on the basis of an official's decision. The alternative would be chaos.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 7586 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Kosh"The worst [ihe's[/i ever seen. I have no reason to disbelieve him. Just not quite the worst that [iI've[/i ever seen. The chances are slim that he and I have seen exactly the same games or exactly the same decisions.'"
edit: nvm read previous page.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1306 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2021 | Dec 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| We have all been at the mercy of this 'character' at some point. But yesterday was sheer neglect and incompetence by the head of referees. Enough is enough. He is embarressing the whole sport. #sackganson
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 1332 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Feb 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| For many years I have been suggesting that we end this 'experiment' with video referees. The fact is that only a minority of games are refereed in this way, it is expensive (a reason for previous statement), it slows the game down and there are still monumental errors and inexplicable decisions.
IMO we'd be better of with the match officials making the calls then it'd be a level playing field at all games. Ok, the muppets on Sky will crucify some of them from time to time, but hey everyone has some to have some fun occasionally! But the RFL can easily defend the officials as they only have one view of the incident.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 14306 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 7194 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2019 | Jul 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I see no rovers fans have as yet questioned why your full back didn't make any attempt to catch the ball whilst being completely Unopposed
.'"
I have on two occasions Eden is a liability been saying it all season no point scoring a couple of tries if its your fault we concede three as has been happening this season
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 14306 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I see no rovers fans have as yet questioned why your full back didn't make any attempt to catch the ball whilst being completely Unopposed
.'"
I've posted on the Hull site that if Eden catches the ball its irrelevant all this. But whatever happens Green is still off side.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 14082 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2017 | Feb 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| wow, that was probably the poorest ref decision I have seen in 30 years given he had all the time in the world and as many times to look at it as he wanted. In fact it was so obviously wrong that the RFL really need to do an investigation into him to make sure there is nothing more sinister to it. You simply can't get something as obvious as that wrong unless you are corrupt or are in early stage Alzheimer's. Having just finished watching the game I am still speechless!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5410 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Kosh"The worst [ihe's[/i ever seen. I have no reason to disbelieve him. Just not quite the worst that [iI've[/i ever seen. The chances are slim that he and I have seen exactly the same games or exactly the same decisions.'"
The thing is this is supposed to be an event that showcases our sport and gets more fans into it. This will more likely turn them away. The Leeds / Bradford one and our fwd last year were bad but basic refereeing decisions this was almost incompetence to the level of having to be deliberate. He had time, angles the rule book and supposedly the best ref in the country yet still he calls wrong.
Football will be watching this and it just adds strength to their reluctance to use video technology as had this happened in their sport it would have been back page for a month and the ref would never work again.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2833 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2022 | Apr 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| =#FF0000Moderated due to potentially libelous content. Sorry fella but you can't go saying stuff like that on a public forum no matter how strongly you feel.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="barham red"The thing is this is supposed to be an event that showcases our sport and gets more fans into it. This will more likely turn them away. The Leeds / Bradford one and our fwd last year were bad but basic refereeing decisions this was almost incompetence to the level of having to be deliberate. He had time, angles the rule book and supposedly the best ref in the country yet still he calls wrong.
Football will be watching this and it just adds strength to their reluctance to use video technology as had this happened in their sport it would have been back page for a month and the ref would never work again.'"
Don't think the newbie fan will be put off by a controversial decision TBH. I was a newbie fan once myself and yet here I am 25 years later having sworn to give up watching any number of times due to poor officials but never quite doing it.
You won't get any arguments from me about the lack of sanctions applied to officials who are poor game after game. The problem is that there aren't enough new ones coming through to allow for existing refs being stood down or sacked.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1134 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Easty"I've posted on the Hull site that if Eden catches the ball its irrelevant all this. But whatever happens Green is still off side.'"
If that scenario had come to pass, I wonder if Thaler would have blown for a penalty as he wouldn't have had recourse to the VR.
For what it's worth, It was the worst decision I've ever seen, even though it was my team who benefitted. The amount of time taken studying the footage simply makes it all the more perplexing. It was, supposedly, a considered and reasoned decision after reviewing the available evidence, and not an off the cuff instant call.
The Liam Watts "try" at Castleford a few years back was dubious, in my eyes, but it is possible to see a certain thought process which resulted in the awarding of the try. Yesterday's decision exists outside the bounds of a rational thought process leading us towards the area of total incompetance or (God forbid) a rather more sinister reason (which I don't believe to be the case, unlike some of the slightly more hysterical robins today).
The plus point, from my point of view, is that because it went in our favour (and was the crucial decision against our nearest and dearest in a close hard fought game) there is more than an element of black humour to all of this, which will doubtless surface in the various workplaces & schools across the fair city during the coming week.
Chin up old boy .
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7504 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2017 | Aug 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Kosh"The worst [ihe's[/i ever seen. I have no reason to disbelieve him. Just not quite the worst that [iI've[/i ever seen. The chances are slim that he and I have seen exactly the same games or exactly the same decisions.'"
We all know the worst decision you've ever seen was liam.watts 50/50 decision at cas a couple of seasons ago. A player maybe/maybe not grounding the ball as opposed to a blatant disregard to the rules. Isometimes wonder if you are just being a wind up merchant or you really believe your tosh, kosh.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1885 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2024 | Mar 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Another shocking call today to disallow a try for Salford, what are the officials doing to our sport?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2833 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2022 | Apr 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"=#FF0000Moderated due to potentially libelous content. Sorry fella but you can't go saying stuff like that on a public forum no matter how strongly you feel.'"
I don't feel particularly strongly, but rational thought leads to me considering WHY Ganson would make such an obviously wrong decision? I'll leave it at that.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1282 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2016 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="JonB95"Another shocking call today to disallow a try for Salford, what are the officials doing to our sport?'"
The obstruction? Correct decision IMO.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 14970 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2021 | Nov 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Easty"www.hullkr.co.uk/on-the-pitch/news/article/club-statement6
Ouch'"
Hudgell has some valid points there but blunts his argument by getting carried away.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 14970 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2021 | Nov 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="richie166"The obstruction? Correct decision IMO.'"
Yep, Gaskell steps into the Widnes defender.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1885 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2024 | Mar 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="richie166"The obstruction? Correct decision IMO.'"
Seen it on every angle and just looked embarrassingly soft to me.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4239 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2024 | Jun 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Ganson should be sacked.
A mistake that elementary, but that big, is simply unacceptable. It single handedly not only gave hull fc the win, but stopped a potential win for hull kr who would have had a kickable penalty.
I'm sorry but why is he even the head of referees anyway? Is he just the most experienced? Because quite frankly, he's been reffing for many years and he's one of the most inconsistent and infuriating referees around. Aside from absolute howlers that no ref should be making with video technology, in some games he manages to single handedly obliterate them as a spectacle.
E.G
''your finger nail touched the ball, penalty''
''but sir''
''back chat, that's 10 minutes in the bin''
next play the ball, attacking player wriggles to get up
''penalty defence, you leant into the defender, moved off the mark''
''but sir he wouldn't get off me i wanted to play the ball
''backchat, 10 metres further back''
****************************************************
He's a piece of sh*t ref and the game would be better without him.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 5594 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2023 | Aug 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="JonB95"Seen it on every angle and just looked embarrassingly soft to me.'"
Was played for all the way. Went down like a footballer.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9543 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Ganson should be sacked.
A mistake that elementary, but that big, is simply unacceptable. It single handedly not only gave hull fc the win, but stopped a potential win for hull kr who would have had a kickable penalty.
'"
Im not sure he would have kicked it from 85 metres out.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="roversmad"We all know the worst decision you've ever seen was liam.watts 50/50 decision at cas a couple of seasons ago. A player maybe/maybe not grounding the ball as opposed to a blatant disregard to the rules. Isometimes wonder if you are just being a wind up merchant or you really believe your tosh, kosh.'"
What 'blatant disregard to the rules' would that be?
The official line is that Ganson tracked the wrong player. That's not disregarding the rules. It's simple incompetence.
And IMO there was no 'maybe' about the grounding for the Watts 'try'. Your mileage may differ.
|
|
|
|
|