or option 3. Don't take over the club.

The team should also suffer the same as the owners as with not playing with poorer players (because the owners did not want to sell them) they are aiding and abetting the owners in all this.

Which owners?

I also think it is extremely harsh on the Bradford players to accuse them of aiding and abetting the owners in all this. They and the other staff are the primary victims in this.

You weren't doing too bad, but then you disgracefully plunged into that slanderous nonsense. I object. A number of differing views have been expressed but unless I missed it, I haven't seen a single Bulls fan post anything at all that could be summarised as the ridiculous "argument" you claim were put. Nor have I seen anyone say or suggest the notion that the Bulls "place at the top table is sacred". Shame on you.

Eh?



I do like your avatar btw, but now am left wondering whether it's an actual photo.

er...well they wouldn't be the new owners then in that case, would they?

no they wouldnt, and the club would liquidate.

Heard Mr Cummins being interviewed yesterday. He was confident that they could overcome the 6pts deduction especially if they[i 'bring in a couple of new players'[/i! Has no one told him the club's skint?

No, he doesn't know. You won't tell him, will you?

Which would mean a restart in Champ 1 for a new club by "new owners", assuming that there is still an appetite for pro or semi-pro RL in Bradford and the fans themselves get something going, or someone else does.

What cannot be allowed to happen is that the club (forget about legal entity smoke and mirrors we are talking about the heart and soul of Bradford RL here) gets a free pass to remain in SL without any ramifications.

It's all typical "business as usual" rhetoric (either that or it's simply delusion), he has to keep up the façade to keep the players he still has.

The only thing which cannot be allowed to happen is for the people of bradford to be left without a club, and a kids of bradford left without a pathway.

The idea that the most important thing is that whoever tries to rescue the situation is in someway punished for the actions of others is unbelievably petty and illogical.

"Without ramifications"? There have already been enough ramifications to sink a tanker. The club is decimated, almost terminally fukked and hanging on by a thread. And you think there are "no ramifications"?? Are you on a different planet or something? Is your receiver on scramble?

There are plenty of clubs, Leeds, Halifax, Dewsbury, Huddersfield you know all those other clubs with in 30 minutes drive.

Saying that the people coming in are being punished is not true. The points deduction is for going into administration, not for coming out of it. It's just these owners tried to play chicken with the rules. They should rightly be rewarded if they did rescue the creditors as the more debt is paid the less of a playing advantage was gained.

ps on the last post I did not separate the sporting side and the finance side. But I did say that both sides need to be treated equally. Until the points deduction any advantage gained from overspending was left uneffected.

Who are you all blaming today?

I submit that I said

....only some Bradford fans have argued that they should be treated differently to the rest of the sporting world.....


I defend myself with












There are others who have said that the 6 points was on the cards and I could post them too.




There are plenty of others but it would become a very long post.

Bradford Bulls are to the credibility of licensing what Leeds Rhinos are to the credibility of a Top 8 play-off system.

Both clubs are owed a huge debt of gratitude

Libellous nonsense.

That simply won't happen (be without a club) at least in the medium to long-term. A good lesson for the youngsters of Bradford seeing you bring them up.

"Dad, dad! Why do we no longer have a club?"

"Because, son, there was too much being spent on the never-never and living far beyond their means, relying on special treatment and making promises that were never kept. They got away with it for years but now its us that suffer."

"Oh."

"Now let that be a lesson to you."

See, there's always a silver lining.

You don't read the Bradford board do you.

I am sure if there actually was a silver lining at Bradford, Wakefield's fans would write to the RFL asking how Bradford could afford it, as they weren't allowed a silver lining when they went into administration!

Exactement. Of course we are talking about regulatory ramifications. You can think of it as "punishment" or you can think of it simply as a consequence. There are always consequences of delinquent actions - whether it affects the people responsible or someone else - that's life. You cannot simply ignore them or try to airbrush them all out...if you were going to do that, you would have to somehow adjust the scorelines of matches in the last few years where Bradford gained a competitive advantage by playing players who were better than they could afford.

Of course not! There's plenty of ridiculous twaddle on here already to keep me going for a while yet.

Which would have zero effect retrospectively on the sponsors they where able to gain the players who were more attracted by the side finishing higher.

If they had gone into admin prior to the end of last year they could have done all this last year.

Suffice to say, that wouldn't be the response the little boy got