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| Quote ="SBR"So clubs should focus purely on attracting a rich sugar daddy to fund their way to success. Not on improving their business. I think that would be a bad thing.'"
Who said anything about a rich sugar daddy, you are shifting the argument now, you previously referred to financial input. This shoudl be done by growing the businesses and not being complacent as they are likely to become as they know they don't need to try, as the strong clubs will be shackeled anyhow.
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| Quote ="SBR"So clubs should focus purely on attracting a rich sugar daddy to fund their way to success. Not on improving their business. I think that would be a bad thing.'"
Well that is what the RFL are trying to get the lower league clubs to do
So they are just being consistent
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Then the onus is on them to attract this input. Who would have thought, money coming into the game is a bad thing...'"
I'm sure the Directors of all the other clubs will go out tomorrow morning and do just that then, or at least put 110% effort into it...Next!
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| Quote ="Starbug"Well that is what the RFL are trying to get the lower league clubs to do
So they are just being consistent'"
Makes a change for them doesn't it?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Well that is what the RFL are trying to get the lower league clubs to do
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Is it? I assume you can back this up or is yet enough more of your unsubtantiated anti-RFL guff?
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"I'm sure the Directors of all the other clubs will go out tomorrow morning and do just that then, or at least put 110% effort into it...Next!'"
There's no reason that all clubs can't be as competitive as St Helens as most other clubs are based in similar sized towns.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Makes a change for them doesn't it?'"
Excuse me sir , would you please vacate the premises , we dont want your ' kind ' here sir thank you
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| I never thought I'd have these guys defending the RFLs policies.
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"There's no reason that all clubs can't be as competitive as St Helens as most other clubs are based in similar sized towns.'"
Because its bloody SPORT you plank
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Who said anything about a rich sugar daddy, you are shifting the argument now, you previously referred to financial input. This shoudl be done by growing the businesses and not being complacent as they know they don't need to try as the strong clubs will be shackeled anyhow.'"
I believe it was a massive financial input. How are these clubs going to achieve that when the product they are selling is stagnating?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Because its bloody SPORT you plank'"
And...
Shame you have to resort to insults too. Pathetic really.
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Is it? I assume you can back this up or is yet enough more of your unsubtantiated anti-RFL guff?'"
Can you provide a ' link ' to the contrary ?
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| Sorry you do know how accusations work don't you. You are supposed to evidence an accusation not make an accusation and ask others to disprove it.
I can only assume from your response you can't substantiate it.
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"And...
Shame you have to resort to insults too. Pathetic really.'"
So sorry , I was just following the lead of other people
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Because it is SPORT you *******
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Sorry you do know how accusations work don't you. You are supposed to evidence an accusation not make an accusation and ask others to disprove it.
I can only assume from your response you can't substantiate it.'"
Well thing is ' Dicky ' was telling me today at Leigh that they want all clubs to find a rich person to finanace them , but he asked me not to tell anybody what he said
That do
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| Quote ="Starbug"So sorry , I was just following the lead of other people
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Because it is SPORT you *******'"
And... your point is, because it's sport clubs shouldn't be run as a viable and expanding company?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Well thing is ' Dicky ' was telling me today at Leigh that they want all clubs to find a rich person to finanace them , but he asked me not to tell anybody what he said
That do'"
Yes, competely substantiated...
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2":3haay17eAnd... your point is, because it's sport clubs shouldn't be run as a viable and expanding company?'" that just because a town is the same size as another does not mean it should be a successful at a particular sport does it
Do they have schools in Leeds ?
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"And... your point is, because it's sport clubs shouldn't be run as a viable and expanding company?'"
You seem to be advocating a scenario where the ability for clubs to compete is restricted by handing even more competitive advantage to a small number of teams, thus making it more difficult for the lesser (at the moment) clubs, to do just that.
Maybe if they build enough models it will all be okay.
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| So you think that the pity policy of the salary cap should remain? I am surprised to hear you defend the policies of the RFL in such a manner.
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"You seem to be advocating a scenario where the ability for clubs to compete is restricted by handing even more competitive advantage to a small number of teams, thus making it more difficult for the lesser (at the moment) clubs, to do just that.
:1gcrwc9pMaybe if they build enough models it will all be okay.[/
Right that's it Bill , pi55 taking like that is out of order any more and you'll be having your wrists slapped
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"You seem to be advocating a scenario where the ability for clubs to compete is restricted by handing even more competitive advantage to a small number of teams, thus making it more difficult for the lesser (at the moment) clubs, to do just that.
Maybe if they build enough models it will all be okay.'"
Why is it handing over competitive advantadge, I have advocated no policy to bar other clubs growing have I?
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Why is it handing over competitive advantadge, I have advocated no policy to bar other clubs growing have I?'"
You have done just that, 110%.
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"You have done just that, 110%.'"
No I am 100% behind encouraging other clubs to grow and become competitive naturally and not have to rely on the pity and hand ups offered by having a salary cap ceiling.
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| Quote ="SBR"Can you elaborate on that?'"
you are bringing the level of the competition down not the bottom up, you are taking from the top to give to the bottom so they meet in the middle,
this brings down the quality of the competition, what we should be doing is letting the top improve unrestricted and give the bottom the tools to grow to the level of the top,
and if they cant, then their place isnt SL level
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