I’m flicking through both and don’t seem to be missing much .

as a neutral watching whats left of our great game tonights video man kendall should be instantly sacked , whats happening, a clear try ,turned down by thaler not being in the correct position ,what not say any reason not to award the try, why indicate try or no try when your just guesing,other sports must laugh at our officials, then to top it all you get the idiot cummins spending half his air time trying to justify a referees cock up

Didn’t Tom Lineham used to be s really good player?

Didn't Warrington used to be a half decent team?

You’d think Warrington had won 20-6 with the way the commentators were speaking. Wigan weren’t even good and still won with absolute ease. When Warrington win nothing, Price should be sacked. Poor team with an even worse coach.

Because those are the rules. I don’t agree with them and judging by your post neither do you but you can’t blame a ref or VR for applying them. The VR has to have conclusive evidence and be 100% to overturn the decision. It then becomes subjective, do I think it should have been a try. Yes. Can I see why it wasn’t allowed given the refs call. Yes as Patten’s ball carrying arm raises after touching the floor albeit slightly.

I thought the first Patten NT was the right call but then second was wrong. I also thought the obstruction given when French was in the clear was wrong too.

The 2nd no try seen at normal speed clearly shows Patton's momentum taking him over the line. Poor initial judgment from Thaler and spineless decision by the VR not to overrule him.

All in all, pretty shambolic from both.

We have to get rid of this "try" "no try" shambles don't union ask if there is any reason he can't give a try ? seems fairer to me. We can't go on with the referee guessing and the vr agreeing with the guess rightly or wrong.

That said its all rubbish on a no sky game that bevan french knock on try is given.

Horrendous decision

Although I kind of agree with you, if this isn't on tv the ref has to make the call.
Mind you, when the technology is there, every VR call should be 100% correct.

Maybe every call should go up as neutral and let the VR decide or have him pass it back to the ref if he is still unsure

The second decision is a perfect example of the ref guessing and his mate confirming his guess.
If you are not sure sending it upstairs without comment has got to be implemented for next season.

God we are Sh!te, we're getting Smashed next week then will limp out of the playoffs. At least i'll get to see a Wigan vs Saints Grand final, that should be a beast of a game

Have to love that tv exchange between Lam, Holbrook and Price. You wouldn’t get that say with Chester, Powell and Agar.

It was funny, the mrs who has no interest couldn’t work out what I was laughing at

Yes, their needs to be a third option for the VR, to make it his call - without being affected by the "refs call".
Although I'm also in favour of some conversation between the ref and VR during the replays, after all, they are on the same side and getting the call right should be the only outcome that matters and I would be equally happy that, having viewed the replays, the ref could say ok, it's a try/ no try.

You may be missing the fact this this was the FOURTH time we've played Wigan this season. Previous Wire following at DW and Anfield, plus the home game, were top notch. THis is why loop games are such a bad idea. It's even possible we will play Wigan for a fifth time in the play-offs. Oh, and, no, I wasn't there last night, but I do live 140 miles away.

In theory we could play Wire 2 more times in the play off/GF

I've said in previous games Thaler orchestrates on Sky if it's Kendall Moore or Mouskas on VR they are loath to overturn their bosses on field decision whatever the slo mo's show. Scared of upsetting the senior man.

Just to keep that decision in perspective, it was almost identical to the Byrne 'no try' that went against Wigan at Hull a couple weeks earlier.

You love to see it

He has a challenge cup winners medal, whereas Makinson and Grace....

this guy is the gift that keeps giving. Why don't you learn from past mistakes? Big mouth, little mind. Bless! You still crying?

Makinson has a Proper winners medal. The grand final.

Lineham doesn’t

Devaluing the Challenge Cup now