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| Not being recognised by the government as a sport doesn't equate to the sport being banned.
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| Before we know it, Gutter and Eve will be claiming that the events of 1895 were just a terrible misunderstanding.
At least the Frenchman's posts give us all a laugh.
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| Quote ="ryano"Who made you President? The Eric Olthwaite of RLFANS! Who was it asked why these boards are dying on their 'arris? Here's your answer!'"
This forum would be stone cold dead in the off season if it were not for my innovative threads. I bring a French perspective and an NRL perspective to the game, when nothing is happening on the pitch.
It is drones like guttersnipe and headhunter who are killing interest in any serious discussion.
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| Quote ="Richie"Not being recognised by the government as a sport doesn't equate to the sport being banned.'" No, Quote Currently, Moroccan citizens are prevented from officially playing the sport, from using municipal facilities, forming a national team '"
but this does.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"This forum would be stone cold dead in the off season if it were not for my innovative threads. I bring a French perspective and an NRL perspective to the game, when nothing is happening on the pitch.
It is drones like guttersnipe and headhunter who are killing interest in any serious discussion.'"
This site is worthless in the close season.
It's attention seeking troll posters like you and gutterfax (or whatever your current user names are) that have made it so.
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| [urlhttp://www.rlef.eu.com/news/article/975/rugby-league-goes-back-to[/url
The above links to a more heartening development story.
Conversely, we can all recognise the 'wheels within wheels' syndrome morphing into corruption.... " look mate, xyz is happening. I don't like it. I want to crush it. I know you'll sympathise with me. You're in a position of power. If you can help me crush this, I'll see you right"
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| Quote ="ryano"Who made you President? The Eric Olthwaite of RLFANS! Who was it asked why these boards are dying on their 'arris? Here's your answer!'"
Eric Olthwaite! Class.
I'm betting Jean has a shovel collection...
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| Quote ="gutterfax"So, as I said. Rather than this being UNION stopping league, it smacks of local rivalries coming to the fore........or are the IRB simply playing lip service?
Too easy to blame the bogey man at times......
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Gutterfax, I normally have some support for your defence of RU as there is a definite chip in rugby league (but it is there for well documented historical reasons)
But in this case, if the Moroccan RU have involvement in this, you have to accept it's a Union thing. The IRB is the governing body. They are responsible and should be stepping in if their international teams are doing something like this.
For me it should be well publicised so that it stops this kind ofthing happening.
I don't however believe it's a conspiracy at International level. If they were going to do that, they'd hardly start in Morocco
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| Reading the facts it's obvious that its just local politics at play, which happens in all sports and in all countries. To keep banging on about 1895 etc just smacks of having a victim mentality. Gutterfax is right about it putting off any potential newbies, sport is supposed to be fun, not some fictional class battle with other sports.
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| Over 60 million people lost their lives in world war 2 and yet you're piously bleating on about underhand dealings between a few rugby clubs that happened at the same time? Good grief. As i said, its a victim mentality.
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| Quote ="galliant"Reading the facts it's obvious that its just local politics at play, which happens in all sports and in all countries. To keep banging on about 1895 etc just smacks of having a victim mentality. Gutterfax is right about it putting off any potential newbies, sport is supposed to be fun, not some fictional class battle with other sports.'"
Fictional? Are you kidding?
You need to catch up on your history
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| Jeez' the PuntMonkies are out in force are'nt they? Obviously nowt' interesting on the Onion forums to chat about!
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| Quote ="galliant"Over 60 million people lost their lives in world war 2 and yet you're piously bleating on about underhand dealings between a few rugby clubs that happened at the same time? Good grief. As i said, its a victim mentality.'"
Now thats what you call a straw man argument!!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Firstly......calm down. You'll do yourself a mischief with such a quick temper.
I asked if the "ban" was the work of Union or a local spat, with scores being settled. A number of "claims", but little documentation has been offered as to the "request" by the Union to cancel/ban games, but as with previous tales of governments or union banning League, very little actual proof.
Still, as if to prove both our points, you claim that the IRB have admonished the MRFU for their actions....proving that it was a local spat and nothing to do with some imaginary loving master plan to wipe out league......
I am not a Union fan by the way, but someone who doesn't regard pub teams as expansion, or heritage packed teams as proof of international growth either. It comforts you to call me a union fan, but the reality is, it's idiots like you with your narrow minds and narrower opinions who both drive existing fans away as well as putting off any potential newbies.
On the topic of Union "getting in the way". If I ran an organisation and a group of my members buggered off to set up a rival organisation in direct competition to mine, i'd crush them at every turn. But, instead of fighting back, it seems that so called die-hard RL fans would rather whimper about it not being fair......for 120 years.....and you call me pathetic
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The union ostrich is strong in this one.............
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"The union ostrich is strong in this one.............'"
So to be clear, you consider pub teams and 100% Australian Italian sides expansion and I'm an ostrich? You believe the parent organisation shouldn't come down hard on a splinter organisation set up in competition and your not whining because big bad nasty union is more popular and better run.
You are the typical rl fan who the majority of sports fans see as bitter and resentful.....and you're northern to boot.
Yeah......it's all unions fault
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| Quote ="galliant"Reading the facts it's obvious that its just local politics at play, which happens in all sports and in all countries. To keep banging on about 1895 etc just smacks of having a victim mentality. Gutterfax is right about it putting off any potential newbies, sport is supposed to be fun, not some fictional class battle with other sports.'" Nobody has 'banged on' about anything apart from you and the other union trolls. Nobody has claimed some sort of high level international conspiracy involving the IRB, what has been claimed is that the RU organisation in Morocco has been conspiring with their government to actively disrupt and ban RL, for which there is significant evidence.
Did Gutterfax really just describe the Morocco RL as a 'splinter organisation'? You are aware that RL and RU are different sports?
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| It's as much more pleasant board when people don't quote gutters. In fact without him this whole thread makes perfect sense and reasoned debate.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Nobody has 'banged on' about anything apart from you and the other union trolls. Nobody has claimed some sort of high level international conspiracy involving the IRB, what has been claimed is that the RU organisation in Morocco has been conspiring with their government to actively disrupt and ban RL, for which there is significant evidence.
Did Gutterfax really just describe the Morocco RL as a 'splinter organisation'?
You are aware that RL and RU are different sports?'"
No I referred to league as a splinter organisation from union....set up in direct competition to union. Because union is still bigger and more popular, some league fans think whining like a girl makes union look smaller....it doesn't
I also said in my first post on this subject that I suspect it was a local spat and it seems i was right.....but don't let that fact get in the way of another troll hunt. The governing body of rugby union have slapped down the locals who acted outside their remit......but lets sweep that aside too.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"So to be clear, you consider pub teams and 100% Australian Italian sides expansion and I'm an ostrich? You believe the parent organisation shouldn't come down hard on a splinter organisation set up in competition and your not whining because big bad nasty union is more popular and better run.
You are the typical rl fan who the majority of sports fans see as bitter and resentful.....and you're northern to boot.
Yeah......it's all unions fault'"
Nice bite!
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| Quote ="headhunter"Nobody has 'banged on' about anything apart from you and the other union trolls. Nobody has claimed some sort of high level international conspiracy involving the IRB, what has been claimed is that the RU organisation in Morocco has been conspiring with their government to actively disrupt and ban RL, for which there is significant evidence. '"
If you read Gansons Opticians post on page 2 of this thread you will see he/she mentions 1895, so i'm guessing he/she is a union troll? And I'm not sure what you mean by significant evidence, evidence means something slightly more tangible than the hearsay and comments of a student and the tour manager. It may or may not be true but at best its weak unsubstantiated evidence that would get laughed out of court.
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| Quote ="GansonTheClown"Nice bite!'"
Hank Marvin I am
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| All of us on here agree, I think, that Rugby League is a fantastic sport to watch and (for those who are able) to play. So anything that helps more people avail of the game globally is a good thing. Amazing to hear that there are now four teams up and running in Morocco and that the problems mentioned on here appear to be well on course for resolution.
[urlhttp://www.rugbyleagueinternationalscores.com/index.php/2012/07/mep-reverses-attempts-to-block-rugby-league-in-morocco/[/url
Pleased to read and helps recall seeing and being amazed by seeing Hussein M 'Barki's debut for Fulham in the inaugural game at Craven Cottage.
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| Quote ="Mr Churchill"All of us on here agree, I think, that Rugby League is a fantastic sport to watch and (for those who are able) to play. So anything that helps more people avail of the game globally is a good thing. Amazing to hear that there are now four teams up and running in Morocco and that the problems mentioned on here appear to be well on course for resolution.
[urlhttp://www.rugbyleagueinternationalscores.com/index.php/2012/07/mep-reverses-attempts-to-block-rugby-league-in-morocco/[/url
Pleased to read and helps recall seeing and being amazed by seeing Hussein M 'Barki's debut for Fulham in the inaugural game at Craven Cottage.'" That article is from 2012. There are currently no teams 'up and running' because the sport has been banned by the Moroccan government.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"So to be clear, you consider pub teams and 100% Australian Italian sides expansion and I'm an ostrich? You believe the parent organisation shouldn't come down hard on a splinter organisation set up in competition and your not whining because big bad nasty union is more popular and better run.
You are the typical rl fan who the majority of sports fans see as bitter and resentful.....and you're northern to boot.
Yeah......it's all unions fault'"
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