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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"[u=#FF0000I'm struggling[/u to see how that's in any way relevant to people's views on the development of Super League?'"
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"There were over 40,000 people at Anfield watching the game live.'"
Thanks for your juvenile input, i'm glad you're paying attention.
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| Quote ="Cokey"GOOD.'"
Another classic Cokey debating skill on show.
Does your mummy know your up this late? Or do you have an adult contribution to add to this discussion?
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Quote ="Cokey"You was in the middle 8s last year and feared relegation,so stfu you silly little boy like your smug Leeds posters on here.
This was your lots interest last year when Australia beat New Zealand at Anfield.
No remarks and only 341 views.
retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=601062'"
Calm down.
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Quote ="Cokey"You was in the middle 8s last year and feared relegation,so stfu you silly little boy like your smug Leeds posters on here.
This was your lots interest last year when Australia beat New Zealand at Anfield.
No remarks and only 341 views.
retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=601062'"
Calm down.
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| Quote ="Cokey"You was in the middle 8s last year and feared relegation'"
We were just taking a year off and letting others have a go at winning the GF. Strolled back in and easily won our trophy back again even lulling others into a false sense that we weren't up to much this year.
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| Who got relegated this year?
*Ss*
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| Am i on the VT? Or on the Smug Leeds nob heads board?
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Another classic Cokey debating skill on show.
Does your mummy know your up this late? Or do you have an adult contribution to add to this discussion?'"
Touched a nerve a i?
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| Quote ="Cokey"Am i on the VT? Or on the Smug Leeds nob heads board?'"
Can't be the VT. That's usually for meaningful discussion and debate about the spot.
All I can see here is a few hard-of-thinking Leythers mashing insults into their keyboards and making fools of themselves.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Who got relegated this year?
*Ss*'"
We are taking a year off.
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| Quote ="Cokey"We are taking a year off.
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So you'll be back in 2019 to get relegated AGAIN?
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| Quote ="DGM"The amount of threads on the Leigh board over the past year or so about Perez & TWP says different.
Also, can the Leigh folk try debating without resorting to name calling and telling people to "shut up". Cheers.'"
Obviously the Leigh club have come into the closest contact with Mr Perez and the Toronto Club , so are most likely to have opinions be they negative or positive
I do hope to bump into him at some point as I do have a question for him , quite simply I'm interested in what the long term plan was when the consortium he represented tried to purchase the Leigh club in 2014
Other than that I wish Toronto as much successes as their on pitch performances deserve
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"So you'll be back in 2019 to get relegated AGAIN?'"
No, It's your turn then, when you'll be calling for heads to roll like you did last year.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Touched a nerve a i? '"
If that makes you feel better then sure, why not eh? After all, you spotted my autocorrect faux-pas earlier.
Of course, one day I'd like to get your views on how you would grow the sport and reach new audiences. We clearly have different views on expansion, and that's fair enough, but I'm always open to hearing reasoned opposing ideas. Alas, I don't think you'll share those tonight but maybe one day, eh? After all, if you have an idea where the sport can develop through clubs such as your own, surely that's a win-win that you really shouldn't keep to yourself?
It's been a pleasure as always
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"So you'll be back in 2019 to get relegated AGAIN?'"
Quite possibly , look forward to visiting a finally finished Headingley , although we'll still be in the crappy bit
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"If that makes you feel better then sure, why not eh? After all, you spotted my autocorrect faux-pas earlier.
Of course, one day I'd like to get your views on how you would grow the sport and reach new audiences. We clearly have different views on expansion, and that's fair enough, but I'm always open to hearing reasoned opposing ideas. Alas, I don't think you'll share those tonight but maybe one day, eh? After all, if you have an idea where the sport can develop through clubs such as your own, surely that's a win-win that you really shouldn't keep to yourself?
It's been a pleasure as always
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Are you asking him personally ? , or what he believes the club he supports can do ?
What have you done personally to grow the sport ? , what have Leeds done to grow the sport ?
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Are you asking him personally ? , or what he believes the club he supports can do ?
What have you done personally to grow the sport ? , what have Leeds done to grow the sport ?'"
Well said Steve, but.......... you're probably wasting your time with this idiot.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Are you asking him personally ? , or what he believes the club he supports can do ?
What have you done personally to grow the sport ? , what have Leeds done to grow the sport ?'"
Either is good.
Personally, as a digital marketer I've consulted with two clubs on their digital strategy, both of which are now driving significantly more revenue from their digital media channels.
As for what Leeds are doing, they're providing the sport with its biggest (and probably most lucrative from a media market perspective) audience, and the club is at least one of top three biggest contributors to the elite player talent pool. You won't find many clubs in SL, the Championship or L1 without a Leeds academy graduate in it.
That enough for you?
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| Quote ="Cokey"Well said Steve, but.......... you're probably wasting your time with this idiot.'"
Mate, at the end of the day, I'm assuming that we both want this sport to keep going and to keep improving. We've clearly got different views on how that can happen.
I believe in expansion, you clearly don't - that's fine. I don't think that simply showing an interest in your ideas on how you'd achieve those aims is enough to merit the sort of childish insults you've thrown around. That's all.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Either is good.
Personally, as a digital marketer I've consulted with two clubs on their digital strategy, both of which are now driving significantly more revenue from their digital media channels.
As for what Leeds are doing, they're providing the sport with its biggest (and probably most lucrative from a media market perspective) audience, and the club is at least one of top three biggest contributors to the elite player talent pool. You won't find may clubs in SL, the Championship or L1 without a Leeds academy graduate in it.
That enough for you?'"
Digital marketeer ? Ooh that sounds ' grand ' , but fair enough , well done , did you get paid for your consultancy ? , have you offered your services to other less financially gifted clubs for free ( as in helping the sport ? )
So let's say the other posters are say a postman , other than buying match tickets and merchandise and actually attending matches home and away when possible do you expect them to do to help the sport ?
Similarily being the big fish in the big pond , I'd expect Leeds contribution to the sport to be bigger than say Batley , no doubt given the choice the dad of a promising kid or his coach that probably gets free tickets to Headingley will push little Johnny to Leeds rather than Mount Pleasant
Do Leeds follow the RFL guidelines on Scolarship numbers or do they overload as certain clubs this side of the hill do ? , giving the smaller clubs very little to work with ?
So what do you want from us ? , us lesser clubs provide you with opposition , unless of course you'd rather all just play each other every 5/6 weeks ?
Again it's criticising us for our location of birth
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Mate, at the end of the day, I'm assuming that we both want this sport to keep going and to keep improving. We've clearly got different views on how that can happen.
I believe in expansion, you clearly don't - that's fine. I don't think that simply showing an interest in your ideas on how you'd achieve those aims is enough to merit the sort of childish insults you've thrown around. That's all.'"
Plenty insults on both sides
I'm fine with expansion , but if it results in clubs not being able to gain admittance via on field results , then in or out , I'll probably step away apart from the odd game ( if my club can survive of course ) and finally rebuild my Ford Pop
It wasn't a concious decision last time , it just crept up on me , it got boring
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Digital marketeer ? Ooh that sounds ' grand ' , but fair enough , well done , did you get paid for your consultancy ? , have you offered your services to other less financially gifted clubs for free ( as in helping the sport ? )
So let's say the other posters are say a postman , other than buying match tickets and merchandise and actually attending matches home and away when possible do you expect them to do to help the sport ?
Similarily being the big fish in the big pond , I'd expect Leeds contribution to the sport to be bigger than say Batley , no doubt given the choice the dad of a promising kid or his coach that probably gets free tickets to Headingley will push little Johnny to Leeds rather than Mount Pleasant
Do Leeds follow the RFL guidelines on Scolarship numbers or do they overload as certain clubs this side of the hill do ? , giving the smaller clubs very little to work with ?
So what do you want from us ? , us lesser clubs provide you with opposition , unless of course you'd rather all just play each other every 5/6 weeks ?
Again it's criticising us for our location of birth'"
You're largely twisting what I said to be honest. My argument is that Cokey (and others) and I clearly have different views on how to achieve what I assume is a similar aim. I've made my views clear and put them out there to be shot at - I'm simply interested in opposing views to achieve that aim.
Individuals can help the sport as they wish. Yes I was paid for my work in a professional capacity (both clubs were happy to pay my fee and more than got their investment back) - I've also been a shareholder at Bramley if that interests you (a club that was interestingly held back due to clubs like Leigh voting to oppose automatic promotion from the National League) and contributed time and money to their cause.
It's really got nothing to do with punishing people for where they were born and simply about seeing the sport grow as I believe it can and should with the right effort at both club and governing body level. What I did for the two clubs referred to above is nothing that any club couldn't do if they could see the opportunities. Unfortunately, too many see marketing as a cost centre, rather than an investment.
If you want to take my views a personal slight against any club or set of fans, that's totally on you.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Mate, at the end of the day, I'm assuming that we both want this sport to keep going and to keep improving. We've clearly got different views on how that can happen.
I believe in expansion, you clearly don't - that's fine. I don't think that simply showing an interest in your ideas on how you'd achieve those aims is enough to merit the sort of childish insults you've thrown around. That's all.'"
I have never ever mentioned that i don't agree with expansion. What i don't like, Is your smuggy we're are alright at the top,so i'll demean the lesser clubs. When Perez builds his rugby empire on the other side of the pond, then decides to stick 2 fingers up to the RFL when he has enough clubs for their own league,their own salary cap etc, then what? How would that leave us?
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"You're largely twisting what I said to be honest. My argument is that Cokey (and others) and I clearly have different views on how to achieve what I assume is a similar aim. I've made my views clear and put them out there to be shot at - I'm simply interested in opposing views to achieve that aim.
Individuals can help the sport as they wish. Yes I was paid for my work in a professional capacity (both clubs were happy to pay my fee and more than got their investment back) - I've also been a shareholder at Bramley if that interests you (a club that was interestingly held back due to clubs like Leigh voting to oppose automatic promotion from the National League) and contributed time and money to their cause.
It's really got nothing to do with punishing people for where they were born and simply about seeing the sport grow as I believe it can and should with the right effort at both club and governing body level. What I did for the two clubs referred to above is nothing that any club couldn't do if they could see the opportunities. Unfortunately, too many see marketing as a cost centre, rather than an investment.
If you want to take my views a personal slight against any club or set of fans, that's totally on you.'"
Marketing starts as a cost , sometimes it pays sometimes it doesn't ' it's like signing a player
Just out of interest what do you believe Leigh can achieve ? , and would you be happy to support a club at that level , I assume you follow both Leeds and Bramley but expect different things from both
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