do the rfl have the power to throw a club out of sle ltd?

Quote ="j.c"do the rfl have the power to throw a club out of sle ltd?'" Quote ="somebody at the rfl wrote" The RFL’s independent Board of Directors reserves the right to revoke any licence awarded for the period 2012 to 2014 if it feels a club is failing, or not fulfilling, its obligations to help the competition meet the objectives of investment and growth,” '" www.therfl.co.uk/licensing

Quote ="j.c"do the rfl have the power to throw a club out of sle ltd?'" Quote ="somebody at the rfl wrote" The RFL’s independent Board of Directors reserves the right to revoke any licence awarded for the period 2012 to 2014 if it feels a club is failing, or not fulfilling, its obligations to help the competition meet the objectives of investment and growth,” '" www.therfl.co.uk/licensing

Still blaming anyone other than those responsible I see........

No problem, investors should be queuing up with the prospect of a season full of meaningful matches and an exciting relegation dogfight to look forward to.

No one "invests" in Rugby League. They're called benefactors and they pump money in for entirely different reasons than for ROI. They are no less likely to "invest" in an RL club than they were two years ago when this shining example set by Bradford began. If anything is going to put them off "investing" it's the idiotic actions of club owners during the licence period. This has tarnished the game more than any new format change.

Feel sorry for the fans but I think the RFL gave got this right, as they said why should they be allowed to keep all the players and have no points deduction imagine if say one of the top club s had a bad season and were relegated and Bradford had survived due to no point s deduction.
Yes the RFL were left with no chioce this time
Besides it gives their favourites a better chance of avoiding the drop !!!!! Lol

And had the RFL made that statement public at the time you would have been first in the queue crying foul, that this was being unhelpful to the consortium trying to rebuild the club!

How is extending and improving Luke Gales contract two weeks ago cutting cloth ?

Hk

I thought the RFL were willing to give the 500k but not so the new owners could then use it to buy the club out of admin


How could the RFL give 500k to the new owners so they could buy the club but then not pay off the HMRC. How would that look. National sport governing body helps company avoid tax bill by subsidising company in administration.

IT is detailed in the RFL statement if you care to look.

Fair point, why not wait til the ownership was confirmed. Its as if sometimes the management of bradford live in a bubble from their own reality

Paul Caddick says you are talking absolute nonsense, below even your usual level of small-minded idiocy. He is very happy with the huge peice of land he owns in a fairly expensive area of Leeds, and the hundreds of thousands he makes most years off it.

So does Ian Lenegan and Simon Moran, they are pretty happy with their investment and how it generally makes them money rather than costs them,

The question is why they would be helping such a consortium buy the club. It is entirely aboutface. Before anything moved forward the RFL should have had these concerns addressed, we shouldnt have got to two weeks in to the season and the RFL basically saying to a consortium that pulled out because of a points deduction "yeah, well we thought you were rubbish and were going to crash and burn anyway so there".

Its important to remember that the new owners havent been prevented from buying the club and were very prepared, even despite the concerns and criticisms in that statement, to allow the club to continue, under that management.

This statement has only come out after the bradford Board removed their bid, the RFL took no action to stop them owning the Bulls, or operating them in SL even though they had no confidence in their ability or that they had the necessary capital to survive.

Don't bring Leeds into this. As you've been told you before, Leeds should be a leading light of the world, not just the UK game. With all the money they've made and with all their success (not to mention Leeds United being in the doldrums for so long) they should by now have got Headingley up to 30,000 capacity and be filling it - to the benefit of the game as a whole as well as themselves. Being content to jog along with well under 20k crowds and the distraction of running their RU club as well has been a let down to the game of RL here.

You'll also note that everything I've said on this Bulls issue has turned out to be correct to the same extent that your ramblings have proved to be uninteligible claptrap.

Best of luck to Mr Lamb. If he gets the Bradford Bulls club, I'm pretty confident he'll be a good Club and business leader.

No, you don't see. You never have, all you have ever been is a poor wind-up merchant. Personally I just find you sad.

But, referencing the particular post that prompted your rapier wit, I simply pointed out that, going forward, if the new owners (as was) had taken their sanctions and shut up, then the new owners who had not provided a credible business plan, apparently, and in whom the RFL had no confidence, apparently, would have nevertheless been allowed to continue in SL.

So it was a comment, on what the RFL state as a fact.

Now, where in that post of mine that you quoted, is the concept of "blame" mentioned, or even referenced?

Re your graphic, of what does your addled brain believe I am "in denial"?

Do try harder. Your output will inevitably still be drivel, but if you want to have a go at me, then at least make it superficially [ilook as if[/i it is relevant to something I actually wrote.

Aim for a better class of drivel, and go from there.

I thought we had agreed that the rfl hadn't ratified this yet? Maybe they were just waiting for the full details to come from the administrator as opposed to (heaven forbid) making assumptions about the offer? We will never know if the rfl wouldn't of ratified the deal as it's been presented (all to publicly) to us. Whilst arguably slightly unprofessional it's hardly uncommon to go "always knew they were shady" after a deal goes south! That said, after the comments mark Moore made, it's hardly surprising.

The only about face has come from mark Moore, ignoring a signed contract to buy the club. If he had honoured this, none of this would of happened.

Edit: also what help did the rfl give this consortium, beyond business curtesy? As far as I can see, they just behaved like anyone hoping for investment in what is basically a subsidiary ...

just because you have invented a situation in your head about how leeds should just magic crowds twice as big as anyone else doesnt mean it has any basis in reality. It is just something you pulled out of your to defend your circular arguments.

I'm not sure at what time you mean, but why would I have done that? If the new owners don't provide the business plan and funding details that they need to, after having the requirements made clear, then why should the fans - who don't forget financially prop up the business of the new owners - be left in the dark about this alleged failure?

Plus, it isn't a question of "foul". If you have to produce evidence of funding of £x, then you either can, or you can't. If you have to produce a business plan acceptable to the RFL, then you either can, or you can't.

It would be reasonable, if there were issues with what had been provided, to try to address these in private with the owners first. It would be reasonable to go public if that failed.



This decision, according to Moore, was communicated at a meeting on 12 February.


On the face of it (and the rest of Moore's statement), that was hardly was being helpful to the consortium trying to rebuild the club.

Is it time to give the Bulls the boot from Super League? I really don't see how long the RFL can keep supporting what is obviously a failed business. Relegate them and London now, give Leigh and Toulouse the time they need to get ready for next season.

no, what has happened is that the offer has been accepted, the players and staff had been moved over, the business had been transfered, due diligence done, fit and proper persons test done.

The difference was the administrator insisted that he wait 28 days to see if there was a better offer so asked the RFL to grant a 28 day licence to facilitate a sale to someone else if that opportunity arose. It didnt.

The offer had been made, it had been accepted, the reason the transfer wasnt complete at that point wasnt down to the RFL but the administrator.

The RFL can't not ratify the deal, the club and its assets dont belong to them, they could refuse to transfer the licence but they had already transfered it for 28 days.

Now there is a possibility the RFL could have refused to turn that 28 day licence in to a years licence. But that they would need to justify refusing that transfer legally and that would be done next month which would have left us in the ridiculous and simply untenable position of mid-season having a club called Bradford Bulls with all its assets, badge, kit, sub-lease etc, as well as player and staff contracts and registrations owned by Mark Moore and co, which had no licence to operate a club and nobody having a licence to operate that club. To refuse the transfer of licence at that point, when the sale fo the business has already been completed, would have simply guaranteed that the club went under, mid-season (which it has anyway)

Why has the game dug itself a hole. Clubs are businesses, if run badly they fail. If they are incapable of cutting their cloth accordingly and fail. So be it. My sentiment has been well and truely worn out by people thinking certain clubs have a right to be in SL.

Got to agree with you on this.

Writing Leigh without some condescending or derogatory remark attached to it....whats wrong with you

The chip on shoulder victim complex in RL really is a sight to behold.



It has nothing to do with certain clubs having a right to be in SL (though if you listen to some smaller clubs it is they who think they have the right to be in SL) it is to do with the fact the RFL have allowed a club they had no confidence would finish the year, to start the year.

A club going into admin and coming out doesnt destroy the integrity of the competition, some games being counted and some games not, some losses/wins being wiped, competition rules being changed mid-season, competition numbers being changed mid-season, they destroy the integrity fo the competition and that is the hole the game has dug itself.

Say you are a Cas and your club is relegated by 1 point from Wakefield. Are you going to simply accept that they had a loss against Bradford wiped out?

Say you are Wakefield and are relegated by 1 point, are you going to accept that everyone got a bye for a game you lost?

Say you are Salford and you miss out on the play-offs by a point, are you going to accept that everyone else got a bye whilst you had to actually go out and win that game?

So Caddick wouldn't invest in property if he didn't own Leeds? What planet are you on?

Club owners [udon't make money from RL[/u. If you believe that they do then your stupidity surprises me even further.