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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Pratt is a centre. I hope we are well past the days of playing players out of position except in emergency situations.
Pratt is only 19/20? And he’s quite stocky and well built. More importantly he has excellent agility and pace and has a pass to put his winger away. All the materials are there for a SL good quality centre imho. Game time is what’s needed for him and a season in championship will do him wonders.
Can’t say he’s struggled physically vs York, Leeds or Wigan and looks quite robust.
Probably one of the most promising centres in superleague or championship.'"
AGREE and there is a good chance if he turns out to be a very good , he will not be taken by a S L club because we have no Cash
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Pratt is a centre. I hope we are well past the days of playing players out of position except in emergency situations.
Pratt is only 19/20? And he’s quite stocky and well built. More importantly he has excellent agility and pace and has a pass to put his winger away. All the materials are there for a SL good quality centre imho. Game time is what’s needed for him and a season in championship will do him wonders.
Can’t say he’s struggled physically vs York, Leeds or Wigan and looks quite robust.
Probably one of the most promising centres in superleague or championship.'"
I agree he's come through as a centre and I'd be quite happy for him to stay there but despite what you say some players (and can think of dozens over my 60 odd years of watching the game) are excellent in some positions but successfully move and centre to SO is not a massive move if the centre has talent - Keith Smith one example!
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| Quote ="1315trinity"I agree he's come through as a centre and I'd be quite happy for him to stay there but despite what you say some players (and can think of dozens over my 60 odd years of watching the game) are excellent in some positions but successfully move and centre to SO is not a massive move if the centre has talent - Keith Smith one example!'"
So why not try him at prop with that logic? Belly did it.
He's a centre and a very good one. For me he learns his trade there under two international centres.
And he's big enough.
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| Pratt sorry to say will not get any way near K Smith ,would get into my top 5 centres I have seen at Wakefield. If Pratt gets half as good he will bring a lot to the team if we get into S L
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| Quote ="1315trinity"I agree he's come through as a centre and I'd be quite happy for him to stay there but despite what you say some players (and can think of dozens over my 60 odd years of watching the game) are excellent in some positions but successfully move and centre to SO is not a massive move if the centre has talent - Keith Smith one example!'"
The modern sport has evolved and the pacing is vastly different in the modern game. I would say a lot of what you say is correct but not so for the recent game.
You may see a small number of centres make transition to second row or some centres adaptable to cover at centre but generally recently it’s the full back and halfback roles that are more translatable as some of the same skill sets are required and they’re usually involved in your phased plays behind the line. Outside backs tend to be the end products of this.
You’ll generally see the following players have dual positions like below:
Full back / halfback - for example… Jowitt, Miller, Field, French, Pryce, and more.
Prop / loose
While ever we have a young half in Lawford though waiting in the wings with promise we don’t need to consider options.
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| INOUT Quote ="Trojan Horse"
While ever we have a young half in Lawford though waiting in the wings with promise we don’t need to consider options.'"
Lawford is no winger!!! ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="PopTart"So why not try him at prop with that logic? Belly did it.
He's a centre and a very good one. For me he learns his trade there under two international centres.
And he's big enough.'"
You deliberately miss my point don't be ridiculous
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| Quote ="1315trinity"
I did, but exaggerating to make the point.
If he's good at his position, why 'try' him somewhere else. He's got a great chance of success there. Moving him will slow him down.
Once he's established then maybe.
Keith Smith played at stand off later in his career after Toppo left. He wasn't likely to displace him because 1) DT was an actual stand off and 2) both players benefitted playing alongside the other, in their best position.
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| Quote ="PopTart"
Toppo was a true stand off yes but as I remember it he left for Hull and Smith was lined up to take over before his 'retirement '
Smith had all the talent needed to become a first class SO.
Anyway we'll just leave Pratt at centre and buy a SO!
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| Quote ="1315trinity"
I can't actually remember the last centre that made a successful move to stand off. I'm sure there have been some.
Smith was a really gifted player. I'm lucky to be just old enough to have seen him play.
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| Brad Fittler the one that stands out to me. Greg Inglis played at 6 for the storm abit too. Tbf he was that much of a freak player he could play anywhere and still have the ability to pretty much win games on his own. Best player I’ve ever seen live.
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| For Wakey. Tony Martin did a decent job at 6 from centre. Paul Sykes too.
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| Wasn’t Garen Casey originally a centre
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| I was thinking of Casey too, but that kind of proves the point.
All those names are quite a while ago.
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| My concern regarding the halves is that they are all alike.
We lack what the Aussies call a 5/8th we have 3 controlling playmakers but lack strike.
I don’t for 1 minute think Pratt in the answer and he should stay as a centre but it probably explains the link to Oliver Russell who is more of a natural traditional standoff.
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| I seem to remember that Toppo was signed as a centre.
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| Quote ="jonh"My concern regarding the halves is that they are all alike.
We lack what the Aussies call a 5/8th we have 3 controlling playmakers but lack strike.
I don’t for 1 minute think Pratt in the answer and he should stay as a centre but it probably explains the link to Oliver Russell who is more of a natural traditional standoff.'"
I’m not sure I would call Lino a controlling half. His style is more suited to that of a running half and for me he’s not the same as Gale and Lawford who look to be more controlling players. Lino is quite reactive and a lot of his game tends to be on the running/stepping side and taking it to the line.
Not that sure on Russell as not seen him much.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I’m not sure I would call Lino a controlling half. His style is more suited to that of a running half and for me he’s not the same as Gale and Lawford who look to be more controlling players. Lino is quite reactive and a lot of his game tends to be on the running/stepping side and taking it to the line.
Not that sure on Russell as not seen him much.'"
After his first half performance, Lino should be made way for Lawford who I was nothing but impressed by throughout preseason,
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"After his first half performance, Lino should be made way for Lawford who I was nothing but impressed by throughout preseason,'"
I was one of Lino’s main critics last season but I’ve given him a clean slate this year.
It’s too early to judge yet though I expect big things from Lino this season.
Lawford has impressed me too so Lino will have to be on his game. Powder is dry for now and I’m giving Lino a chance to get some games under his belt and see how he goes and judge him on his performances this year and not last.
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| Quote ="jonh"My concern regarding the halves is that they are all alike.
We lack what the Aussies call a 5/8th we have 3 controlling playmakers but lack strike.
I don’t for 1 minute think Pratt in the answer and he should stay as a centre but it probably explains the link to Oliver Russell who is more of a natural traditional standoff.'"
Agree with that id say all our halfs are 7s opposed to 6s.ot woukd be good to have 1 of each or maybe im been old fashioned
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| Bit contradictory that article about Hardaker as initially it says he has been found guilty and banned for 3 years but then goes on to say that he has been charged ?? ![ASK icon_ask.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_ask.gif)
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Agree with that id say all our halfs are 7s opposed to 6s.ot woukd be good to have 1 of each or maybe im been old fashioned'"
Totally agree,
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He’ll have to 110 it up to Chester’s house for a lift
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He’ll have to 110 it up to Chester’s house for a lift
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"He’ll have to 110 it up to Chester’s house for a lift'"
Doesn't run anymore.
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