I agree with a lot except 2 up 2 down. I would love to see one up this year & keep London then one up next year then back to 1 up1 down in 2021. Get rid the extra fixtures ( we will all have reserve games now to fill in the gaps). As for SKY I am not sure they are that bothered & I have a feeling they won’t even bother when the current deal ends, just look at the way we are treated they don’t even repeat one single game after a live match yet we get endless F1 Wendy ball etc.

without going to franchise or licensing we should go to 14 clubs and get rid of the loop fixtures, ridiculous concept. Keep the magic weekend if we must although not entirely convinced on what it brings to the competion. Heve relegation and promotion of 1 or 2 up and down every 3-4 years with the timetable agreed well in advance. This will give the promoted sides a chance to build for a sustained run at staying in super league and championship clubs can time there runs to coincide with promtion years.

I agree, its just needs tidying, the actual layout and the ability for fans to move around is a lost luxury in my book. People will miss it when its gone and now only Wakey and Cas still offer it, just like it to be a bit better presented.

There qren't enough quality platers for 14 teams, there are too many journeymen in the 12 in SL already.

And yet, Toronto, along with any additional N. American clubs can only use "journeymen" as they are in no position to play any "locals" and wont be for 10+ years.
Ironically, when they were a league 1 club, thrashing every side they played, there was an opportunity to field some "local" players but, that boat has long since sailed.

Who seems unable? The clubs or Elstone? Because it's very much the latter's remit to sell the game to TV.

And when I read he's currently trying to negotiate a 2 year deal it almost makes me nostalgic for the Nigel Wood era.

In my opinion both Wakefield and Castlefords grounds are accidents waiting to happen. How they get safety certificates I do not know. Not are they just scruffy.
The terraces at both stadia are in poor condition and at some point an accident will happen. When this one does occur someone will have to be held to account.
I know there have been promises of new grounds, but these are some way off at best. RFL need to get a grip and ensure these grounds are bought up to standard.

What type of accident can occur stood watching , entering,leaving, maybe a snowflake may pester you in the unroofed area

There isn’t enough talent to support an increase in SL teams. Just look at all the teams involved in the relegation battle. All 4 of them have a roster made up
Of journeymen

It might be a one off but look what happened to Salford this year compared to last and hardly a team full of superstar signings? A 14 team league is more balanced and better than a season made up of contrived loop fixtures to 'make the numbers up' IMO

I found it rather amusing watching the SL show this week and seeing Jamie Peacock talking about the four sides who faced the drop and waxing lyrical about the drama it brought.

This is the same Jamie Peacock that when at Hull KR three years ago publicly stated that 'relegation has no place in RL' after they went down. He's soon changed his tune.

I cant recall if it was him or one of his other former team mates that, just a few years ago, wanted SL trimming to 10 clubs.
Again, there was a rapid U- turn on those thoughts as well.

Having said that, this season, apart form Saints domination at the top, has been really open and competitive and the relegation battle in particular has been as close and as tense as anything that we've seen in RL (perhaps excluding the original MPG between Wakefield & Cas) and it all happened without fabricating fixtures and finding gimmicks - something that those in charge should take particular note of.

I think we all agree that that the bottom half of the table was more exciting than the top.
Saints were a country mile in front of everybody in the regular season

Both Wakefield and Castleford grounds are safe for people to attend. The safety and more importantly insurance certificates confirm this. I also think the appearance is a bit depressing and some of the facilities are inadequate but, I love the place as a few thousand others do. Last Friday night home game under lights, clear sky with a full moon, a good vociferous crowd, believe me, there’s no better place to be if you’re a rugby league fan.

Have you anything specific in mind on how the accident could happen or is this another one whinging that the stadium doesn't look pretty enough for you

Quote ="wrencat1873"I cant recall if it was him or one of his other former team mates that, just a few years ago, wanted SL trimming to 10 clubs. Again, there was a rapid U- turn on those thoughts as well. Having said that, this season, apart form Saints domination at the top, has been really open and competitive and the relegation battle in particular has been as close and as tense as anything that we've seen in RL (perhaps excluding the original MPG between Wakefield & Cas) and it all happened without fabricating fixtures and finding gimmicks - something that those in charge should take particular note of. '" it was their chairman who wanted a league of 10! https://www.express.co.uk/sport/rugbyle ... eague-plan

Quote ="wrencat1873"I cant recall if it was him or one of his other former team mates that, just a few years ago, wanted SL trimming to 10 clubs. Again, there was a rapid U- turn on those thoughts as well. Having said that, this season, apart form Saints domination at the top, has been really open and competitive and the relegation battle in particular has been as close and as tense as anything that we've seen in RL (perhaps excluding the original MPG between Wakefield & Cas) and it all happened without fabricating fixtures and finding gimmicks - something that those in charge should take particular note of. '" it was their chairman who wanted a league of 10! https://www.express.co.uk/sport/rugbyle ... eague-plan

Were my eyes deceiving me or is the North Stand at Belle Vue subsiding. The stand is breaking in two. The gap between them having been poorly repaired. The foot or so difference in height having been poorly made up in concrete. Say that the flare that was let off the other day had exploded. The crowd would have surged away from the incident. People would neither see or expect the floor to rise as it does. People would stumble and fall. The push from behind would cause serious injuries or death. I would as you to see what happened at Bethnal Green Tube station in WW2.
Further some of the walkways are not in good condition.
Mend a Hose Jungle. The bank that rises to the Railway End. Behind the Skyboard is an area covered in stones. As small stones do they have travelled and are all over the ground, on the steps and terrace. An emergency evacuation with loose footing is not safe.
The concrete on the terraces is in poor condition. Edges broken and generally they are not good.
I know that these are old stadia. But they have to be safe especially with large crowds.
Am I correct in thinking Wakefield Council covers both of the old grounds?

BV has a safety certificate, it has its capacity limited by it, and even in a brand spanking new all seater stadium if a flair exploded there would be loads off people clambering over plastic seats and potentially falling etc.

Belle Vue is a dump, and it hinders Trinity more than anybody else, but I've never felt unsafe, even in a 10+ crowd. In fact the only time I've seen someone fall over at a the stadium was at the JJB when Phil Clarke fell down the steps during an international match in the early 2000's.

Let us just hope there is not an incident where serious injuries or death occurs. That seems to be the way of things at Wakefield.

Of course. Every other week someone gets seriously maimed or killed at BV.

That's why there so god damn few of us.

that's why you was all put in a nice little safe area where all the barriers had been tested to make sure if there was a surge it wouldn't be life threatening

do you wear Velcro shoes so you don't trip up over your laces if not you should as you sound like a health and safety officer

Little tip for you too stick a cork on the end of your fork so you don't poke your eye out

and iit wasn't flare it was a smoke grenade the moron that set it off should be ashamed as should all the other morons that use flares and smoke grenades in crowded places there use is five star stupidity most are being bought off the internet no checks in place and I bet there;s no guarantee on the quality control at the shed some other clown is making money out of another set of clowns GROW UP idiots

Exactly, I mean who wears flares these days.

Good to see Danny Ward's got a new two year deal, depending on their recruitment I see no reason why they couldn't come straight back up.