Ah yes, the old "Should have been Keighley".
Hate to break this to you, but Fev Rovers, Salford, Wakey, Widnes, Hull, and Doncaster all finished above Keighley. Even if we accept that Doncaster were well adrift, that still leaves five clubs who had a far better claim to a Superleague place than Keighley. Or London for that matter.

Ever been to London? Ever seen all those nice big terraced townhouses in the central areas? You'd struggle to buy one of those for 10 million quid.

I'm all for expansion but expand where there is interest and where it is likely to be long term sustainable. I have seen very little in the Broncos/Quins/Broncos life to suggest either of those things exist at SL level in london. If the RFL were to pump money into expansion it should be in a Welsh club for me, not a london club. london is just too hard a market for the resources the RFL or an owner can put in. Wales and another french club should be the RFL's expansion goals over the next decade. If, and it is a very big IF, the RFL ever have a decent amount of income then consider a southern based club in the future.

GF I think Keighley deserve a lot more credit and respect than that. Along with their Second Division title I'm sure they also won at least one Premiership trophy in that era. But it's not just that, they were simply a revolution at the time, but it always gets forgotten because (as much as I have a soft spot for Bradford), the Bulls stole their ideas and became huge from it.
In early '95 the Cougars' momentum and fanbase for a second-tier club was insane (I've still never seen a club - even FC - take over New CP like Keighley did on Good Friday '95). If the RFL / Sky hadn't been so corrupt and had given Keighley the SL place they deserved I believe they would have still been in it today, and achieved London's feat of never finishing in a relegation place.
Geographically the Cougars are pretty close to Wakey, Bradford, Leeds, Cas, and even the Hull clubs really. They'd have brought a hell of a lot more support and revenue to all these clubs than London ever did even in their prime, as well as get double or treble the home support London have.
I'm sorry to go on about it as I know it's been a pointless debate for a long time, but it's still one of the most senseless, corrupt and bent decisions I've seen in RL during my time as an RL fan, and so if London do leave SL (which they won't, obviously), it'll be about time IMO.

I do not want London to stop playing because since I moved down south they are the nearest place I can get to, to see HULL KR only 2 hours away from me so its handy to go their to watch them but you are right by now they should be better

Please don't tell me you are serious? I know you are a well known troll and a fan of the 15 man game but even so I would hope you are kidding.

So any news on the positives London have brought to the super league in any of their guises since it's conception?

Surely as a big fan of the club you must be able to educate us?


We're all ears.

LMS, Clubb, Dixon, Sarginson, Channing

A second place league finish, three cup semi finals, a cup final and NEVER finished in a relegation place or bottom of the league.

A foothold in the South of the country.

Unfortunately in your case there is nothing in between them.

The Cowgirls.

As always well said and well put. Good summary.

You missed out "...and fans..." In that sentence.


For what it is worth to the poster suggesting a ground could have been built for £10 million. You clearly have no clue about land prices IN and AROUND London that would be big enough and suitable for a stadium. £10 million might buy enough land for half a ground. I suppose we could always move north say close to the M62 and build our ground, with HS2 it would take me less time to get there than going to Gillingham from Kingston as was muted in the past year.

Oh, but hang on HS2 is a waste off money according to most peeps north of Barnet.


Back to my drawing board.

As requested earlier, as you are such a RL expert, what has any other club ' brought to ' SL or RL in general?

And considering this is the ' printed word ' not voice communication, its all eyes, not ears

And let's not forget Buck 'n Dusty.


Pretty impressive stats for 17 years of top flight rugby league. I think someone should pump another few million quid into the club. Who knows ...with such an impressive record maybe in another 17 years the club might even bring more than 20 fans to an away fixture.

Not even an original troll......

Don't let this dick drag you in to a response. Outside of Wigan, Saints and Leeds, oh and Bulls in their heyday no teams have added anything much to RL or SL IN THE LAST 20 years.


What many fail to see up north of Watford is that London is the "bread winner" for the nation. A successful London side would have delivered financial benefits to the Northern clubs, but nobody had a strategy and vision to make it work. I left the north 25 years ago as I realised there is world south of the M62, unfortunately many are stuck up there with a narrow view of the UK and London. There is no point in trying to point it out. You have tried over many years just to get back sarcastic comments. Time to go in to Administration Gutters. Enjoy the NRL it is likely to be around as a full time sport long after we have retrenched to our roots and gone part time, aye they was grand times lad.

don't fret pet...the Troll will get nothing from me....well at least until it tells me what other clubs have brought to SL that London haven't. I suspect it is hanging its hat on 'away fans' which I have repeatedly shown deliver a fraction of 1% of a SL clubs turn over.......it is also quite shocking that idiot trolls like this specimen see 'away fans' as the answer to the woes of the game as a national sport



I suspect that whatever the outcome of this farce, there will be no P&R in 2014........Ian Lenagan called the RFL's bluff and David Hughes has just raised the stakes......little old London could well yet have a major say in the shaping of RL in the UK over the next decade.

Whats up chuck, cat got your tongue, or your finger in this case

Again, what have other clubs brought to the sport ?

Answer or look a complete dick, rather than just a dick, its up to you

That's very much my experience of current northern attitudes too, I'm sorry to say.

7 working days left...........has the RFL:
A) sorted out a new investor?
B) bought us a ground?
C) met with anyone from the club to discuss the way forward?
D) non of the above?

Months of Silence from the club and RFL broken by news of pending administration and then followed by silence from everyone again......
......something is going on and I suspect not everyone north of Potters Bar will be happy about it!

probably reflective of how many people give a sht.

This happened 6 months ago - just saying. www.theherald.com.au/story/14768 ... ence-trip/

This happened 6 months ago - just saying. www.theherald.com.au/story/14768 ... ence-trip/

quite possibly, but there is a SL season due to start in 11 weeks time and something needs to be sorted out.......this is an opportunity for the RFL to make tough and strong leadership decisions that will shape the game in the UK for the next 10 years.
All the talk and "what if's" about Internationals is all well and good.....but let's not forget where 90% of the games cash comes from......the domestic leagues and their TV deals.

Ah the great North/South divide eh?! Dont tar us all with the same brush though.....plenty of us can see the benefits that a strong London presence would bring. The potential down there is massive.

The question for me is how you make it happen, not whether it should exist. Maybe if IL had been allowed to stay on, it may have been the catalyst, who knows?

I may be wrong, but on my multiple visits to watch Leeds down there, Ive always come away thinking that the London club just doesnt make enough effort to attract and retain fans. Maybe its a lack of identity, a lack of marketing or just an assumption that people will turn up regardless (or not turn up, even). I don't know.

Anyway, I personally wish the club all the best, and would love to see them thrive. Ive had some great trips down there, and met some genuinely enthusiastic fans. I hope the necessary decisions are taken and leadership put in place to ensure not just the here and now, but the long term future as well.