What absolute nonsense. Its embarrassing the amount of Wakefield fans bringing this up since Rangi Chase got a call up.

He plays for your rivals, we get it.

No, it's embarrasding that you think it's a Castleford thing because it's not. He is a Kiwi and therefore should not be playing for England. Neither should any other Aussie or Kiwi. Hope that simplifies things for you.

It clearly is because he is a Castleford player, Wakefield fans weren’t nearly as vocal when Widdop or Fa’asavalu played for England, they certainly weren’t making such ridiculous claims as you have done. Which is a change for Wakefield fans, im surprised they haven’t organised a petition.

Chase has declared himself English, whether he meets your newly invented criteria for what you would class as English is of no interest to anybody.

You Smokey TA are obviously a first class . Why do you think this is a Wakey/Cas thing when I have come across other fans saying that Chase should not be in the england squad. Besides I think everyone has forgotten that not long ago Chase was playing against England. Just because he declares that he is english does not mean he is english. He will never be english. I can't wait for this farce to blow up in McNamara's face because he is such a e coach. Rant over.

Yes it does, when he decides he is English, he is English. You dont decide Rangi Chase's nationality. He does.

Let me guess. You think Danny Brough should be the England scrum half?



The hypocrisy some people have shown over this issue is hilarious.

Erm technically the law does and he isn't English as it stands.

Unless we decide our own nationality now and in that case I think I could gets game for Russia at the weekend!

A little bit off topic, does anyone know how to use the ignore feature?

I couldn't give a shiite tbh. No rules have been broken and national teams can play whoever they want by the looks of it so I'm happy to support whoever plays wearing the Rovers jersey.

Danny Brough was BORN in England, Chase wasn't. And the hypocrisy is hilarious. If Chase wasn't playing for Cas, you would be saying the same thing as I am. Let me ask you a question, why isn't Chase playing for NZ?

For what's it's worth, I did feel the same about Fa'sasvalu. In fact it was the last international game I went to. And I only went as it was a birthday present for my dad. As for Widdop, you're right, I'm not bothered. Why? Because he's English you clown!

That clearly isnt the case, or else he wouldnt be playing for England would he? He would also become british in the eyes of the law when he took out a British passport.

Danny Brough has represented Scotland. It is hilarious that you want Danny Brough playing for England despite the fact he has represented another nation in a full international yet dont want Rangi Chase playing for England because he played for a select X1. Chase isnt playing for NZ because he is playing for England.

So his GBH charges having nothing to do with it?

And Heighington? Reed? Tulson Tollett?

About as much as Ryan Baileys.

He qualifies on residency grounds full stop.

He can't apply for a passport until 5 years here. Come on that's hardly rocket science.

I was actually drawing a distinction there between English and British. I have nothing, no identification, which states I am English. I have plenty which say I am British but i choose to identify as English.

There is nothing English about Heighington. Reed and Tollett were born here so that makes them English in my eyes. Just so I make myself clear, I only want English players in the England team, regardless of who they play for. As for Brough, he should have been the England scrum half as he is the best we have, but he forfeited that right when he turned out for Scotland. No player should ever be allowed to play for 2 countries.

Thats a very naive view of the world. Jack Reed has spent more time in Aus than in the UK, he has spent about as much time in the uk as Rangi Chase. People move. It would be crazy to force Chase to play for a different national side to the rest of his family and the place where he lives.

I have no idea why anyone would want to 'restrict' Englishness. Anybody who wants to join us is welcome.

I shouldn't bother 'discussing' anything with smokeyta. He has always had a blatant disregard for anything Trinity
and you are wasting your time and energy.

Yeah, my support for the England team is entirely based on a hatred for Wakefield trinity.

Yeah, I've just realised that.

I think the suggestion that it reflects a lack of investment in youth or underlies England's perceived failures is probably a fallacy (albeit the latter is endorsed by the RFL).
What I do think is worth considering is that I think SL is looking like becoming the CanadianFL to the NRL's NFL. The motto of the CFL is 'This is our league'.
The overseas players bring a lot to SL, and I want to see a mix, but i think there is an argument for more homegrown players better representing the communities in which the clubs are based. Maybe.

Don't get drawn in, it quickly becomes very tedious!

Do you think Rangi Chase is going to live in this country for ever? I will put a large wager on the fact that as soon as his RL career in this country ends he will go back over to New Zealand/Aus. His only allegiance presently to this country is it gives him a good living (exactly the same as Faasavalu) (sp), it makes life easier for him re working here following his assault conviction and finally there's the fact he wouldn't get in the NZ side in his preferred position. So spare us the different national side to the rest of his family crap.