can I ask whats your problem

Not really a golden ticket! It’s not a level playing field. So who has the money to waste? Who has the balls to spend?

Don't get yer knickers in a twist pal, you coach has left to a poorer side and that alone should send the alarm bells ringing.

Read what I state again and Salford should be just fine but they won't be cracking any pots buddy. Ian Watson has done a wonderful Job. Richard Marshall is a good coach but as YOU have stated, books will need balancing.

Good luck next season

Erm you quite clearly stated Salford should be worried about Leigh purely based on the fact our coach has left with sod all else to back it up.

You said nothing about us being fine (read your own post again "buddy"

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And I've had a look at Leigh's current squad. No offence to Leythers but it's packed full of SL cast-offs who in most cases are Championship standard. I see nothing in that squad to think they'll finish anywhere near Salford next season if fast-tracked into SL. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that either.

Fev have paid an ex Inbetweeners actor £41.50 for their 20 second Super League bid video !!! https://www.facebook.com/39191926421337 ... 669992525/

Fev have paid an ex Inbetweeners actor £41.50 for their 20 second Super League bid video !!! https://www.facebook.com/39191926421337 ... 669992525/

& here's the Fev Super League bid video Part 2 ..... https://youtu.be/k1lnfxErQC4

& here's the Fev Super League bid video Part 2 ..... https://youtu.be/k1lnfxErQC4

Coached well,they’ll do well. Same as Salford. Leigh have nothing to prove... Leigh also don’t carry any financial issues. How Salford are surviving without income beggars belief.

Newcastle Thunder can confirm an application to join the Betfred Championship for the 2021 season has been submitted #ThunderFamily #RugbyLeague

The presentation seems to be a lot about what the club has actually achieved as opposed to what they are going to do.

I'd be delighted to see them just go straight to SL.

stick London in SL and we could really say the professional game is played nationally from both East to west and North to south. Real expansion

that would be the worse thing for them to do skipping the championship to join in the super league not only would it alienate the fans but to reach anything like competative would be a massive ask,
we still haven't heard anything about toronto club whether they intend to play in the championship, maybe they can get that american league up and running toronto, ottawa and new york

I wonder if this is the reason we haven't heard anything from the Bulls apart from we have submitted a bid, every other club has these fancy videos.

The 3 racist incidents in 2019 won't have helped with Fev's bid.

Your not teasing me are you

The North American clubs are just looking for some $Billionaires with a little more staying power to set this up. Why is it people can dream all this, but I can't dream of Newcastle straight to Superleague?



In terms of the Toulouse bid I have just counted their imports in the current squad. They only have five French players in the first choice matchday 17.....Much like Les Catalans. If we had two French clubs in Superleague, with few if any Frenchmen in them would that work for you?

It's still a "free" entry into the top flight, something which usually has to be earned on the field of play and even though there should be full funding, in line with the other 11 clubs, the circa £1,000,000 is still significantly more than any Championship club will receive.
All SL clubs should receive the same funding, although this is RL and what's "right" doesn't seem to matter.

Agreed - Leigh 6th Salford 12th.

Are they that fancy though? I'm no good with computers but people I know could throw up a decent promo video pretty quickly. Having watched a few they don't go into any great depth either, maybe they all suffice as a "token bid"...

It struck me that Bulls were hot favourites in the way which Mr, Beaumont seemed happy to declare he would spend spend spend if those kind gents at Superleague would let him come in this year, but if not, no matter Degsy will still go all out to win the championship and spend spend spend later.

People doubt Bulls can put up much of a show 2021 and are just going to collapse and go down again. Relegation could easily happen, but what I don't think will happen is it will be in car crash fashion. The business plan must involve the possibility of relegation and return, so why does relegation have to be ruination? why is there this all or nothing idea? The end of the 2021 season will see what Superleague promised and that was "promotion and relegation next year"...........

If we give those who run the game and run the Bulls some credit it may be that like Hull Kingston Rovers before them they go down with only a handful of wins 2021 but then like HKR they go on to win the Championship 2022. HKR fans disappeared in droves during their very bad times in the early 2000's but in the season they had recently when relegated to the Championship they came straight back with bigger crowds than when they were in Superleague.

All this depends on Bulls getting the SL place and then looking to the fans go get behind them as they build even if they went down first go.

HKR fans were not put off by Relegation and there's less of them......

yes you can dream about it but they would have to replace just about the full squad to be anything like good enough and within that short space of time would be a massive task to even find them, at least they would get paid tho

Its significant that Championship clubs have already recruited players with existing and new contracts in place,which Leigh have done at a significant cost. Everything is significantly against the twelth club. The £1m in central funding is irrelevant when clubs have built their squads to compete in the Championship.

Do you really believe that, if has been rumoured more often than not, the RFL & SLE have engineered the criteria to only favour Bradford Bulls & that the RFL see the return of a paying tenant & that one of the "old boys" from the Old Boys Club stands to benefit in his investment into Bradford Bulls that, should Bradford be in a position with any chance be relegated, that the RFL & SLE won't step in to put a stop to that ? In the same way that the RFL actively prevented the relegation of Wigan following their "survival" by cheating the Salary Cap & being excessively lenient in their punishment, the RFL *with a vested interest* will about turn to put a stop to any chance of losing Bradford & Odsal !!!

Ask yourself about the *vested interests* of the RFL & the criteria manipulation & I challenge you to come up with any other conclusion !

Well I take your points entirely Ste, However the fact is SL appeared to guarantee there "will be P & R next year" so I just don't see them stepping in in such a crass and damaging way. Sure the Wigan scenario was sneaky but just removing the promotion promised I can't see it at all.

I don't see Mr. Beaumont jumping up and down either, he seems calm enough to go with the flow of competing for an SL place 2022, and his track record is that he's not worried about going mad with the RFL/SL - he hammered them over the unfair lower salary cap for top Championship clubs who had to play Superleague clubs in the MPG.

It smells of Bradford up this coming season 2021 and Leigh up the following year for 2022.. But I suppose Mr. B has to make sure his 2022 side can see off Fev and York. Do you think Mr. B would go mad if they did choose Bulls??

I agree that's what will happen. Mr. B did say if Leigh wasn't the chosen club,then he thinks it should be Toulouse. Would he go mad if it was the Bulls? probably not,just disappointed that it wasn't Leigh.

Thanks. By [i "disappointed it wasn't Leigh" [/i do you mean it (probably won't be) Leigh chosen for a free ride into Superleague?

I'm used to fans saying that they want their club to win promotion not be given it?



Surely a blast through the Championship 2021 will be fun before the hard work begins 2022??

Here are your applications in full with the Public Relations and aren't we blooming wonderful stuff taken out

BRADFORD Proven big achievements in Superleague and one of the best academies going. Ownership group with good personal track records, plan to also bring the "iconic" ground up to scratch.

FEATHERSTONE Excellent ground and facilities built up over the recent years, and if Superleague needs big well attended derbies then Fev.v.Cas and Fev.v. Wakefield will put four of them into the Superleague calendar. Best management of finances in the championship.

LEIGH - We will have a Visible cash investment waiting (not promises), will provide an SL quality squad, and will play at our World Cup facility P.S. If Bradford get in I (Derek) will accept they had a better proposition (even if they didn't!!)

LONDON - Academy expanding the player base in numbers and geography, only just lost their SL status by points difference, London open the game to the national media the club has several partnerships with commercial brands in the pipeline.

YORK - Easy rail access and a great day out in an iconic city that can take in the Rugby and the history. 366 pubs!!!!! £50M stadium complex.

As you can see Derek just about conceded the Bulls are in first......

My take is these are great clubs and it's a shame we can't go to 14 to get several of them in. But if the game slims down to two divisions under the new SKY deal 2020 then the second tier will have some great clubs, and a great competition if they salary cap it......

Your take may see some of this as very good points and some of this as flim-flam. You choose which club it should be.............

(source: Todays Rugby leaguer and League Express)

You conveniently left out Toulouse.

As someone who claims to be subjective and moral compass of the forum, why the obvious bias.

Read my post again, I said.............

[uwith the Public Relations and aren't we blooming wonderful stuff taken out[/u

Once I took the guff out about "Strong player development" "A beautiful stadium", "A major city" "A trip to be remembered in the pink city"......

I came to the "High quality stadium 18,784 capacity" and I thought what's the capacity do with anything when TO's two play off games only attracted a paltry 1,000 fans apiece?

Nothing in the application was of any possible real value to SL. Not just that stuff above, they don't have a TV deal, but they indicated would get on once in Superleague. I've heard that every year for years from them... Where is it?


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In fairness, that is the extent of York’s bid too.

They’ve got a train station and a nice city for a day out. New fancy stadium of course but I don’t think that will be enough.