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| If sl stays at 14 clubs then the gulf between the top of the championship and the bottom of sl wouldn't take all that much bridge.
Its obvious the standards have dropped in sl ,so a good coach and the right decisions in the market, and they would be able to compete quite easy now'
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"With the structure that is in place for the Championship and its lack of sponsorship, there will never be the option of "swapping" a SL club for a CC club.
However, its all about success being rewarded and somehow the top club in the CC, deservers their chance.
Having said that, it is far from straightforward as the gulf between the two leagues, especially in terms of revenue is possibly too big for a promoted club to prosper.'"
To accept that the current structure of the Championship is unable to produce a potential SL club replacement is to completely right off the sport ( although I would suggest Mr Wood did exactly that with his pathetic " A worth winning in its own right " speach followed by an absense of anything liable to make it so ) outside SL, and a direct result of that will be a decline within SL
With nobody to replace ' Failure ' the RFL have no choice but to keep putting their hands in their pockets and bailing out the clubs that will not build being stuck at the bottom of a league with nothing to play for
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| Quote ="j.c"If sl stays at 14 clubs then the gulf between the top of the championship and the bottom of sl wouldn't take all that much bridge.
Its obvious the standards have dropped in sl ,so a good coach and the right decisions in the market, and they would be able to compete quite easy now''"
But compete where jc? , I have no doubt Leigh,Fax,Fev and possibly Sheffield could put together a squad to finish bottom 2/3 in SL, but then 2/3 years down the line you end up back to square 1
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| Quote ="Starbug"But compete where jc? , I have no doubt Leigh,Fax,Fev and possibly Sheffield could put together a squad to finish bottom 2/3 in SL, but then 2/3 years down the line you end up back to square 1'"
Competing with the bottom 7 not bottom 2 or 3.
By the end of the season was there that much difference between wakey and widnes?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Good sensible post that Spud and although London isn't "our strength", in some warped way it probably secures the Sky deal. A ridiculous situation but nevertheless a necessity? They stick out like a jellied eel on a plate full of Yorkshire puddings. Anyway, too much good work has gone on at grass roots level to abandon the area for good. It certainly looks a strong league, including the bouncebackability Bulls
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we need london....and catalan.......to give the league credibility end of story...otherwise we might as well just go back to the lancashire & yorkshire leagues
and as you say in a round about way...theres more to london being there than just fans turning up to watch them...to much work has gone into them to abandoning them..plus they actually don't warrant being kicked out,sure they don't bring many fans...but on the pitch they've never finished bottom of SL and have averaged 8th place since 1996....so they are in my 10 team SL on merit.
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"we need london....and catalan.......to give the league credibility end of story...otherwise we might as well just go back to the lancashire & yorkshire leagues
and as you say in a round about way...theres more to london being there than just fans turning up to watch them...to much work has gone into them to abandoning them..plus they actually don't warrant being kicked out,sure they don't bring many fans...but on the pitch they've never finished bottom of SL and have averaged 8th place since 1996....so they are in my 10 team SL on merit.'"
But a well supported competitive London would be a massive boost for RL in this country, so at the advent of Licencing they should have essentially been taken over and marketed to death, yet another failure by the RFL
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Hypocrite London Broncos fan having a titheaded opinion about the game.
Take London Broncos out of the equation. You've used it as a get out of jail free card for too long you ignorant lover.'"
Wtf are you on about? I dont think Leigh or Fev are worthy of a place in SL. its iirrelevant who I support. Not sure why you're being abusive. Im entitled to an opinion whoever i support.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Wtf are you on about? I dont think Leigh or Fev are worthy of a place in SL. its iirrelevant who I support. Not sure why you're being abusive. Im entitled to an opinion whoever i support.'"
you should know been a london fan your not entitled to an opinion until at least 2050
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"you should know been a london fan your not entitled to an opinion until at least 2050
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You don't know what you're talking about. Tre Cool has been playing this game for years. It's on him and him alone, not Broncos fans. Like I say, get out of jail free card. Be as obnoxious and hypocritical as you want, then claim any backlash is some sort of northern parochialism and anti London feeling. It's not. It's just that he deserves it.
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| Great opportunity to go 2 x 10 in 2014 and unite the sport ready for the world cup.
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| Quote ="maurice"Great opportunity to go 2 x 10 in 2014 and unite the sport ready for the world cup.'"
Even if 2 x 10 would be a good concept, how will this unite the sport.
Four clubs to be culled from the top flight and a further 8 clubs to be culled form the second tier of RL,
i'm sure that they and their supporters will all be delighted.
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| Quote ="maurice"Great opportunity to go 2 x 10 in 2014 and unite the sport ready for the world cup.'"
You want it as you know Leigh won't get into Superleague.
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| Quote ="OFFTHECUFF"You want it as you know Leigh won't get into Superleague.
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| Would SL2 be full time? If so, it's a recipe for disaster.
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Would SL2 be full time? If so, it's a recipe for disaster.'"
I think that the proposed set up is for 2 full time leagues of 10.
Also there would be a lower cap for league 2 than SL1, but this would still represent an increase on the current championship cap.
Why do you think full time would be a disaster ?
Surely, for the long term future of the game and with the hope of one day becoming competetive against the Aussies, we need the largest pool of pro players possible.
Equally, if there are more full time opportunities in the game, maybe more young lads may be tempted into the game ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I think that the proposed set up is for 2 full time leagues of 10.
Also there would be a lower cap for league 2 than SL1, but this would still represent an increase on the current championship cap.
Why do you think full time would be a disaster ?
Surely, for the long term future of the game and with the hope of one day becoming competetive against the Aussies, we need the largest pool of pro players possible.
Equally, if there are more full time opportunities in the game, maybe more young lads may be tempted into the game ?'"
Apologies, having re-read my post I meant to say, if it's NOT full time it will be a disaster. You can't have a PT league "feeding" a FT league on a yearly basis, not enough time.
Having said that, I don't think we can support 20 FT clubs anyway so my typo is correct
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| No, 14 is more than enough for SL.
IMO, have a 9's competition in Manchester over Magic Weekend. Two groups of 7, top 2 into the semi-finals. The winners get 4 SL points, the runners-up 3 points and the two losing semi-finalists 2 points.
As has been mentioned by loads, reduce the number of SL matches, and IMO only have SL teams in the Challenge Cup. Have the weekend before the CC Final free. They're playing too often. Only play 1 match over Easter too.
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| Quote ="OzWelsh"No, 14 is more than enough for SL.
IMO, have a 9's competition in Manchester over Magic Weekend. Two groups of 7, top 2 into the semi-finals. The winners get 4 SL points, the runners-up 3 points and the two losing semi-finalists 2 points.
As has been mentioned by loads, reduce the number of SL matches, and IMO only have SL teams in the Challenge Cup. Have the weekend before the CC Final free. They're playing too often. Only play 1 match over Easter too.'"
Why bother with the ' 9 ' s, just have a darts comp at ally pally for SL points instead
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| Quote ="Starbug"Why bother with the ' 9 ' s, just have a darts comp at ally pally for SL points instead
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Great idea, much better than the above one
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| Quote ="Starbug"Why bother with the ' 9 ' s, just have a darts comp at ally pally for SL points instead
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Even if 2 x 10 would be a good concept, how will this unite the sport.
Four clubs to be culled from the top flight and a further 8 clubs to be culled form the second tier of RL,
i'm sure that they and their supporters will all be delighted.
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As is the usual with a thread like this, as long as the posters team is cut in not cut out, they deem it a sensible suggestion.
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| Indeed, generally so, we just need to get more supprters from soccer and that frikin forward dominated e, that's union by the way.
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