Yet attendances in this era are higher than at any other time


Yet attendances are still higher.
Yet the TV deal is worth more.

Quietly?????? Bloody Hell.

Wales, London, Perpignan, Toulouse.

Yet the lower leagues get more money and exposure than ever before. Strange idea of chopping at the roots you have.

All additions have been brand new teams, or moves of other teams. I don't believe there have been any mergers, apart from some temporary ones in WW2.

The point is teams don't play their way into the league by winning a different league.

Do you think their fans decry their sport as having no credibility because of this?

Times, and circumstances change.

Again, I'm proud to be a Leyther.

They were allowed in to SL with a stadium that you felt was worse than two existing SL clubs? And now they play at a better one? Well then, of course that makes our sport a joke

American football, basketball, baseball, amateur rugby league, rugby union, formala one, soccer, motorsports. How any do you want?

You missed out semi-professional rugby league - when was the last time they let anybody join their competition from the lower one, based solely on onfield performance?

relevance?

Oh, and cricket.

I think he's right. Until there is 6/7 Clubs that are run, supported, and playing well enough to compete in Super League, it'll never happen. Only Widnes can at the moment.

It appears Starbug will only be happy when people agree with his opinion that the game below SL is doomed in a matter of time. I don't understand why people with this much negative feeling towards something actually bother to follow the sport?

A ' short term ' basis ?

They had a piece of paper with some drawings on them for a possible stadium to be built in a few years time

Cas and Wakey had the same thing several years earlier

How long is ' short term ' , ? Maybe you should apply the same logic to your arguments about HKR s production of players

Utter bollox , and you know it

So if that is the case why even bother setting minimum standards , other clubs spent money to comply , then the RFL to avoid embarrassment change their own criteria to suit

Keep ' pretending ' you believe what you are posting , one day you might just start believing it

So what now . , are you suggesting they had the move to Wrexham , and going into admin twice in their licence application ?

No they didn't , they had plans to move to a possible stadium that was never going to get built , much like Cas and Wakey

They had applied for planning permission the same year they were promoted and were planning on moving to Rodney Parade for the 2010 season,

I think thats fairly short-term

Have they been refused by the clubs ?

' Planning ' means fook all my friend , as you well know , Leeds might have planned doing Headingley up in 1938 , it took them , what was it 65 years ?

The Carolina Panthers, Toronto FC, Orlando Magic, The Jacksonville Jaguars, Seattle Seahawks, Goldcoast Titans, Melbourne Storm, Tampa Bay Rays, Arizona Diamondbacks, Toronto Raptors, Real Salt Lake,

Motorsport and formula one , where are their stadiums ?

Basketball and american football have no relevance to Britain , both sports are total garbage , football has promotion and relegation with minimum standards if you have a look

Baseball , played in the US and Japan , give it a rest

So we are left with amateur RL , which is almost an entirely regionalised sport with promotion and relegation lastime I looked , ditto RU

So we have RL in australia and US only sports in north America , have they ever had promotion and relegation in these sports ?

So you're complaint is that within less than a year of being promoted Crusaders had submitted planning permission for a new stadium and had planned to move for the 2010 (their second in SL) to another stadium whilst their new stadium was being built, but infact moved permanently to a different stadium for the 2010 season and going forward. But their one year stay at a stadium which wasnt up to standard wasnt short-term enough for you.

Yes, Toronto FC and the Toronto Raptors in their US only sports in north america, that actually happen to be probably the two biggest sports in the entire world but hey ho.

but no they didnt ever have promotion and relegation, because even though they do have lower leagues they see it for the ridiculously damaging idiocy it is.

I...I agree with you here. Make the game faster, more entertaining and better to watch. The Scrum is a nonsense. It needs to be controlled, but competitive, this would reward good kicking and would bring a new dimension to the game. At least make them put it in straight - stop penalising teams for trying.

Make the game the same around the world. Football is so good because from a Sunday League match to a Champions League final (give or take a man with a stick). Then its allowing expansion to develop naturally, by creating teams where there are schools playing League. I would aim for Nottingham as a place, being not too far, and near enough to London, but I would have a team playing in Super League in 20 Years. A Second Team in London would be another thing. I would promote Toulouse in this Franchise round.

Get everyong playing the game - loving the game, the crowds will grow themselves.

The Crusaders are not the same club as the Celtic Crusaders , short memory there Smokey



And if you believe the original ( 1 st , not 2 nd or 3 rd ) Crusaders would have been playing in a new stadium in South Wales inside 5 years , you really are far too gullible