I wouldn't even bother getting drawn into the discussion.

Overall Wakefield are in a much better position than at any time over any of the other SuperLeague years.

They are working on improving the weaker areas too, especially the Stadium.
That's good enough for me.

I'm not worried that we are in any way the obvious choice to lose a franchise, though we need to keep the standards up as others look to improve as well..

aww You're putting everything on the line just for us



However what Dally can't seem to grasp is that Salford simply won't have a stadium. Night Salford

i enjoy talking about SL.

i really cant see how wakey avoid the drop but theres been quite a few surprises that i didnt see eg salford having problems with their ground like they have, celtics first year etc..

if nothing changes from today its you that goes.

why would wakey all of a sudden start growing when in all the years of SL theyve been in tehre they havent?

1 heartland club will go - salford, cas or wakey

wakey are the standouts unless salfords ground dies in the a&&e

teh news about council doing the funding was very positive.

even if plans get scaled back to a less fancy stadium thats fine with me.

salford wont get their ground next time, but as long as things are progressing theyll be given more leaway than cas or wakey because of their potential

crowds fell 15% of so for a team that came 4th.

your crowds are pathetic.

there are any number of championship clubs who could beat your crowds with a stable stint in sL.

looking at all the time wakey have been in SL, the club has gotten nowhere

sale are a novelty after 10 years ?




little tip mate, the RFL got rid of P&R. move with the times

dont tell him that, he's a leigh fan!

yeah, on match days he probably still goes to hilton park

really? it may be summer in Australia in January, but it certainly isnt in England. soccer is an all year round sport, especially in a World Cup year.



which might be the only thing that saves them in 2012.

Saints tried targetting Liverpool - it failed, and we moved on to concentrating on exploiting the "home market" of St Helens.

very funny

no pal i go to our frachize busting state of the art new stadium

See dally has destroyed another thread with his 100% fact free no added knowledge guff



Well done you buffoon

bit like your last franchise application document then eh mate?

crowds growing?




new stadium?

so it isnt summer in england in january.

wow, thanks for the revelation

clearly you needed the revelation after posting this:



SL kicks off in January i.e. not summer.

you should tell rupert murdoch his idea to make RL a summer game in england didnt work out.

it has always been similar since the inception of "summer" rugby.

In the 1996 season, Saints' first game was on the 4th February, (last game 8th September) - so the season has been extended by a month since the first year, but there has always been a large proportion of games played in Winter.

I'd assume from the land given to us by Wakefield Council.

I'm beginning to think that the land "given" to the clubs by WMDC is a bit of a red herring. If the land is there to help both clubs secure funding for the new stadia, why did WMDC have to guarantee the loan that's been taken by Wakefield Community Trust to pay for the designs & planning application? Surely if the land was available as security this could - and should - have been used instead.

Clearly the banks (or at least the Co-op bank) must think that there'd be difficulty in realising their security over the land if the loan wasn't repaid or they wouldn't have asked for the guarantee from WMDC.

There is land upon which both clubs can use to support loans. This land is not 'given' to either club. There are also many strings attached which include the proposals being viable and the structure of the organisation using the land to secure funding.

If the Newmarket scheme fell through there would be no 'asset' to show for the funding, merely a bill for professional fees - hence the requirement for a guarantee.

:1ecwdnlv

crowds fell 15% of :1ecwdnlvso for a team that came 4th.

What have Hull KR got to do with this????

The mere fact you dont even know what postion teams finished in really does make you look very foolish indeed.

loads of talk about teams losing their license on here. the chances are at least one team will have gone into admin before the next license issues.

we have seen HKR post very worrying figures

SHUDDS making big losses

WIGAN same story

SALFORD making big losses and still not competing

CRUSADERS god only knows what is going on there!

certain there are more, all the talk of widnes and halifax etc, now the reality that they have missed the gravy train and in fact a SL place could just be another nail in their coffins.

lets be honest both have been in succesful in SL in the past and failed to maintain it. neither looks out of place in the league they are in

And neither would look out of place replacing Wakey if it came to it. The only problem with Wakey, would be if your current stadium would meet the minium standards for the CC if there is any.

its a poor show when you are relying on men wearing suits to achieve promotion because the men wearing shorts cant manage it