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| Turns out they are playing SL rules
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Can't really compare it to tackles/cards so far this year as they won't be playing under SL rules will they? Surely be international rules?'"
As explained by sky
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| The new rule appears to be: 'high tackles can be punished by just about anything the referee feels like on the night'
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| In a period when RU is under scrutiny regarding concussive injuries we're turning a blind eye to a serious potential problem.
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| And to top it of the player who should be in the bin sets a try up
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| And the final coup de grace by the ref...
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| Can't blame the ref.Game was there for the winning but Wire played dumb in second period making school boy errors and bad options when in decent position while St George just ground them down by doing the basics well.
Good game though.
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| The halves were the difference in that game, Widdop and Marshall's decision making and execution was excellent, O'Brian and Myler in particular was gash. I've rated that kid since he was at Salford but he's regressed massively since going to Warrington IMO.
As for the ref, he reffed the game well, but got all the key decisions wrong. It's something I've noticed when English refs referee a game involving an Aussie side. They seem to 5hit themselves. Ganson being the obvious exception.
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| Were they not playing third man flop rule, I only managed to watch the last 20 odd minutes but there were at least half a dozen flops (by SGI) that could/should have being penalized or at least mentioned to the players about by the ref to not do..certainly slowed Warrington's PTB without doubt.
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| Spot on regarding the half backs, myler and O'Brien were anonymous that was the difference between the teams
As for the high tackles, I might be in the minority but I didn't think they were that bad mistimed and reckless yes but not malicious or likely to cause serious injury. Yellow card would have been right. But after the first game with ah van the precedent has been done away with it appears
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| Quote ="meast"Spot on regarding the half backs, myler and O'Brien were anonymous that was the difference between the teams
As for the high tackles, I might be in the minority but I didn't think they were that bad mistimed and reckless yes but not malicious or likely to cause serious injury. Yellow card would have been right. But after the first game with ah van the precedent has been done away with it appears'"
i agree regards the high tackles. Maybe the first should have been a card but i don't think either were intentional, just mistimed as they were wrong footed.
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| i agree with TS over the tackles. how is Ah Vans a red and they are pen sufficient?
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| Quote ="meast"Spot on regarding the half backs, myler and O'Brien were anonymous that was the difference between the teams
As for the high tackles, I might be in the minority but I didn't think they were that bad mistimed and reckless yes but not malicious or likely to cause serious injury. Yellow card would have been right. But after the first game with ah van the precedent has been done away with it appears'"
That is my problem with it, personally I thought yellow card too but you can't go giving red cards one week then absolutely nothing for the same thing the next week. It frustrates the players, it frustrates the fans.
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| At least the game will have more match officials coming forward based on the posts so far.
Looking good.
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| Quote ="JonB95"That is my problem with it, personally I thought yellow card too but you can't go giving red cards one week then absolutely nothing for the same thing the next week. It frustrates the players, it frustrates the fans.'"
This. There's too big a variance between the decisions. Personally I thought red (going on recent decisions) for the first one (and I'm 95% sure it would've been a red in a regular league game) but I wouldn't have minded it being a sin bin and the same for the second one. You can't jump into tackles with an outstretched arm like that.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"At least the game will have more match officials coming forward based on the posts so far.
Looking good.'"
You know what, I've panned the refs recently for their lack of game savy and their inability to avoid the temptation to become the no.1 talking point in games. Thaler did brilliantly tonight in letting the game flow, making decisions only when a team was genuinely disadvantaged and not just being pedantic and trying to take centre stage.
I also thought his handling of the two high shots was great as well. The first was reckless and could have seen a yellow, but the second was nothing, just a penalty. He did really well to avoid ruining the game with a red card, most referees would have bowed to the baying crowd and the embarrassing reaction of the Warrington players.
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| Based purely on my own personal views I'd have gone yellow for first and penalty for the second.
However, based on recent decisions - and all we ask for is consistency - it surely had to be at least yellow, possibly even red for the first, though I still don't think the second was too bad and a penalty probably correct, a yellow would have been a stretch. That said, Marshall showed a bit of his grub side a few times.
Overall Warrington played superbly for long spells but I think the raise in intensity eventually told - St George never eased off and capitalised on every lapse. Physically there was little between them, but as others have said the decision-making in the halves was the main difference.
What a shame we're talking about the ref again, but Thaler's decision-making process is baffling at times, he seems to overcomplicate matters and look for a reason not give the obvious decision. Should've given that one easy yellow card and I don't think anyone would have had a problem. And that rip on Atkins at the end - surely a second look wouldn't have hurt?
Whatever, very enjoyable game.
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| Personally, i wish all games were reffed like that, i wish that was the bench mark, people will disagree but i preffered it, reminded me of the 80's.
Penny didn't make a meal of it, he jumped straight up, if he'd stayed down and play acted then i think the ref has to give it a long hard think, KP just getting straight up made it a hell of a lot easier for the ref.
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| it was a lazy grab,rather than a vicious high shot
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| I imagine if Thaler saw that first one again he'd reconsider his decision. It looked a red to me but real time is difficult. Other than that though I thought, once again, he demonstrated why he is one of the best referees in the league. Just compare his clarity, decision making, general error rate and player handling with James Child.
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| No mention of penny getting shoved in the hoardings off the ball?
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| As a neutral thought the game was reffed ok. I might have a different opinion if it was my team involved but the game was a good game to watch without too much ref involvement
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| First high shot is a yellow minimum, poor technique and extremely dangerous/wreckless. The marshall tackle is just a penalty, his arm clearly comes of the ball then off the shoulder into the neck.
If I was TS I'd be more bothered about the laying on and flopping in the ruck and the amount of grapple tackles. SGI took advantage of only one referee in the game.
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