Rumours that Wigan are to take over South Wales Scorpions as a feeder team.

Another SL fan telling us how to run our own business! Mind your own and leave us alone. Not only do want a closed shop with the chance of any existing CC club ever getting into SL vitually zero, but now you want to tell us how to carry on out of SL!

And if the SL side has 8 – 10 players without game time, that you want to play in the championship side, wont that means 8 – 10 championship players not getting a game? The championship side are then basically become you’re SL A team at a different club.

I can. The quality of the competition would be far higher, the players would be more committed (As their future SL careers would be riding on it).

The financial common sense is the best part. The SL club pays the salaries they are currently paying for the players and the Championship club gets better players for less money.

So as Wire's feeder club, Leigh could have had Riley, Higham, Evans, Louie Anderson, Williams etc playing for them for nothing.

Read what I posted again , properly

What's the problem with that? You would be watching a higher standard and those Championship players missing out would have to prove their worth. That competitive environment would get young players used to it and raise the standard.

It would mean more equipped young players coming through to SL.

What is the alternative? Trying to scramble through from year to year, scraping surivival and dipping in and out of administration?

Using kiddies from sl clubs wont raise standards in the CC,it would actually lower them.

What makes you think those players would come for nothing?

Well you said:


Feeder teams would be even worse for them.

Also if you have 8 - 10 SL players in the feeder team, then how many Championship players are going to get the chance to prove their worth?

But not in the same way as the system works in Australia , what the pies are really after is any decent quality Welsh players

Are you suggesting that W1g4n players would train during the week at Orrel , and then nip down to Neath for a training session there ?

But will you be anyway? You support Leigh don't you? Hardly a rosy future there at present? It's the same for all the sub-SL clubs. With no realistic prospect of promotion and very little TV revenue, how is it sustainable in the long term?

Which is the only thing this is about , the SL clubs are failing to produce enough quality players for SL and England , so lets bugger up somebody else's competition , enjoy SL , but leave us alone , we have enough of our own problems without having to sort yours out as well

Which leads us back to the point I posted in the post above about the sustainability of the Championship clubs in the current economic climate.

No I wouldn't , I can just about stomach up to 4 DR players , anything more than that and you can keep it

And yes you are correct , it isn't very ' rosy ' down here and it might not be sustainable , but being a feeder club isnt an option , it would be the end , it might be anyway in a bit

Then we dont sustain , we fail

So, how self sustainable are Sts Academy?

Or the vast majority of SL clubs for that matter?

So you'll have the same players players playing against the same players, albeit in differently named teams at a different venue in a differently named competition and that will improve standards? Amazing.

Yes I do

Not Saints,Wires or anybody else's academy

It really gets on my nerves this patronising, condescending attitude from fans of SL clubs. Rugby league is only small as it is with 12 professional and twenty semi-Professional clubs and you want to get rid of all the semi-pro teams?? We get no interest from the media at the moment, so what interest will there be in a game consisting of only twelve clubs, spread along the M62. That would put us on a par with ice hockey and basketball.

You don't get football supporters saying Hartlepool or Bristol havn't done anything for year so they should shut up shop or become a feeder club for Newcastle or whatever. There would be no interest in watching a club that was dependant on a SL club, and that included a load of kids from their academy. We watch our clubs as they represent our town, not the enemy up the road. Would Hull supporters have been happy fifteen years ago for them to become Hull KR's feeder team and to get the chance of seeing Rovers reserves playing for them. I don't think so, so why should Keighley, Batley or Hunslet's fans?

Also except for a few squad members including SL kids would lower the standard as U-20s is a much lower standard than the Championship and lower than most of C1. keighley have played St. Helens and Bradford in pre-season friendleys in the last two years, and even though we played a fair from full strength team the scores were 44-0 and 46-12 ansd we awere C1.

Just because Australia does it doesn't mean we should. We live in Britain, not the cultural wasteland of Australia.

It would be an all academy lineup. The CC club would still have whatever stock of players they could afford, but could add to that with players like those mentioned.

Are you telling me you wouldn't like to see the likes of Evans, Higham and Anderson trotting round for Leigh?

Send em on a season long loan , and I'd be ok with that

You just don't get it do you? How many games would they play before trotting back to the 'parent' SL club? How do the CC know who they might get over the coming season, for how many games and therefore what players of their own they need to sign to ensure all positions are covered?



Well, actually no

Probably the best analogy I've read on here in a long time. What really gets my goat is the current crowing from a certain number of posters on here about Leigh's poor financial situation, while conveniently forgetting that 90% of Super League clubs would be passing us in the creek if it weren't for the Sky money.

When the Sky gravy train runs out and all clubs return to semi pro status the winners will be the well managed clubs run to a budget without the aid of a sugar daddy.