Will someone other than saints or Wigan ever win the grand final? (apart from Leeds). People will say yes, but it never ever happens.

So monotonous.

The Leopards next year Flexy.

Nope. Saints or Wigan. Bookmark it. Take it the bank. Mortgage. Life savings.

Dire game, by 2 sides who just wanted to grind it out. A game that any casual fans watching wont be converted to RL
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Catalans just dire with the ball, never looked like scoring.

Your all wrong Warringtons year next year

Nope. Even if they rampage the regular season, saints or Wigan will win when it matters.

I was being sarcastic

Everyone else needs to step up

It's Leeds turn again next.

Its only "never ever" if you disregard the 12 super league titles that Leeds and Bradford won.

It’s quite a gulf to bridge though. Which isn’t Saints’ or Wigan’s fault.

Hull KR are showing more ambition/have more resource than previously, but it’ll need to be sustained for a long time to shift the dial enough, imo - unless there’s a one-off ‘stars align’ season. It is a bit weird that that’s never happened across SL’s history, even once. Not specifically for Hull KR… for any of the less well-resourced clubs. Or maybe it just underlines the gulf. The better-resourced clubs will just always have another gear or more in the tank.

I think we’re stuck between stools as ‘other clubs’. Not quite ready to accept that nothing will ever change (like Scottish football, say - because that’d be ‘admitting defeat’) and instead fully enjoy or embrace our little subplots. But not quite able to do what’d be needed to change it.

Not a sniff. You are a good decade away. Toxic culture, clueless coach, terrible signings year after year and a poor academy. These can’t be fixed overnight

Stop trolling LeBron.

He’s correct. Leeds (we) had a one-off era of players but have basically reverted to type pre-2004.

Saints and Wigan will trade titles from now on. Sometimes other teams will make the grand final, but they won’t win it.

Hull KR are doing a fantastic job and full credit to them!

Saints will have to sign some better players to do that.

Potentially. They already have a good spine and Clarke is very good. It’s likely Wigan will win it now for a few years though. When I say trade titles I don’t mean literally as in every other year I just mean over the next 5 years the winners column will only be Wigan and saints.

I’m gonna say right now

2024 - Wigan
2025 - Saints
2026 - Wigan
2027 - Wigan
2028- Saints

No probs ,I will start it off-
Wigan-2023
Lets see how it pans out.

We are next in the pass the parcel circle.



It may be wishful thinking, but I've a feeling we are going to turn a corner this coming year.

I also think Saints are going to have a couple of seasons rebuilding.

I think Wigan will have a good run, and then we will be challenging for silverware with Saints hot on our heels.

2024 - Wigan
2025 - Wigan
2026 - Leeds
2027 - Wigan
2028- Saints

yeah wishful thinking

We are building a team with purpose. The next couple of signings will be a statement of intent.

Wishful thinking. Leeds squad next year is worse than this season’s and the coach is not a top coach. They are now just another Hull FC, a team meandering aimlessly from season to season in mediocrity. No players want to join Leeds anymore. Other clubs have things going on, they are desired. Wigan and Leigh are so hot right now.

Are you joking? The team is shaping up to be way stronger than last seasons, and even before. We have got actual play makers in the spine and a back line with players now playing in their natural position. The spine of Ackers, Frawley, Croft and Miller is head and shoulders above O'Conner, Sezer, Austin and Myler.

The recruitment so far has been one with a show of intent. Goudemand is the only real questionable one. We need another big prop, but we have the cap space available, the time to recruit one, and the intent to get the right man. Last season was always going to be one of clearing out the dead-wood, and we have replaced everyone of those that left with better players. Walters aside. Not bad for a club that 'nobody wants to join'. We have already out-negotiated some of the 'desirable' clubs with a couple of signings.

Leighs new recruits are hardly sending shivers down anyone's spines. They're all Championship quality players, and a couple of first choice injuries (they were lucky last year) will show the weakness of their squad.

If you think Leeds are going to embarrass themselves again this year, you are in for a rude awakening.

There has been plenty of chances to take a SL crown from outside of the Leeds/Saints/Wigan, they just haven't quite hit the mark on the final day of the season.

It isn't like in Scotland where it is normally just 2 football teams in the finals, at least.

It won't really take much of a big step for the likes of Wire or Cats to take the GF, well, Cats.... ok.......

Hull FC, Warrington x 3, Castleford, Catalans x 2, Salford.

On 8 occasions these other teams have been there with a chance and each time it’s the same. On 8 occasions they just happened to have “not quite hit he mark”. It’s fundamental. Never happens.