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| This is a disgrace why are they not playing a game in the heartlands, some where like Royston vasey wife miners welfare.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"This is a disgrace why are they not playing a game in the heartlands'"
They may well do that, nothings confirmed for Toronto yet and the big clubs here are interested, so this is the usual empty boasting stuff, most of us get fed up with, plus the game needs to be competitive, Toronto are set to have a long hard season with a thin squad. Still, they could start preparing for a possible game now by announcing the crowd as a sell out, and teasing us as to whether SBW will play or not. This will bring thousands of "eyeballs" to our game.
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| Would be a great coup for Toronto, if it comes off but, if they end up as a lower end SL club, it wont be much of a test for the Aussies.
Plus, they would be adding a whole load of extra travel to what is likely to be a tight itinerary.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"This is a disgrace why are they not playing a game in the heartlands, some where like Royston vasey wife miners welfare.'"
I can already see the fume coming from Donnyman and IR80
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| Might as well let Hunslet play Australia, if Toronto are doing so.
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| Quote ="puroresu_boy"https://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1219949200244383744?s=19'"
Great PR exercise by the Wolfpack, which will get column inches in Canada
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"Great PR exercise by the Wolfpack, which will get column inches in Canada'"
To be fair it’s Toronto who are generating the column inches over here too.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"To be fair it’s Toronto who are generating the column inches over here too.'" they are and all for the wrong reasons, be glad when the seasons starts
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"To be fair it’s Toronto who are generating the column inches over here too.'"
Pity they don't generate TV deals.
Pity they don't generate players.
Why is it "fair" they are in Superleague when all they generate is a massive debt
You'll go to any extreme to justify this fake club
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Pity they don't generate TV deals.
Pity they don't generate players.
Why is it "fair" they are in Superleague when all they generate is a massive debt
You'll go to any extreme to justify this fake club
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Very shortsighted, harnessed propertly Toronto could be a great benefit to the game. Just the kind of shot in the arm the sport needs. Helping to dispel the flatcap image and bring more attention and fans to the game.
Also if it takes off over there we open up a new market of millions of potential players, refs, fans etc. They havent been parachuted in either, won promotion fair and square from both League 1 and the Championship.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"
Very shortsighted, harnessed propertly Toronto could be a great benefit to the game. If it takes off over there we open up a new market of millions of potential players, refs, fans etc. They havent been parachuted in either, won promotion fair and square from both League 1 and the Championship.'"
Are you serious here, or just making stuff up for fun?
Promotion was fair and square? I thought they spent a fortune on players in both League 1 and the Championship. That was hardly "fair" or "square" was it? We are in the fourth season now and there aren't any Canadian players or Refs. No sign of any?? No TV deal either. Millions of fans?? You are making stuff up here, are you Bob Hunter
I'd give you the benefit of the doubt all day long here, if perhaps you would accept they need to come up with TV deals, fans, ref's etc before they take a place in Superleague?
So what's your vision for them? How would you "Harness them properly"??
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Are you serious here, or just making stuff up for fun?
Promotion was fair and square? I thought they spent a fortune on players in both League 1 and the Championship. That was hardly "fair" or "square" was it? We are in the fourth season now and there aren't any Canadian players or Refs. No sign of any?? No TV deal either. Millions of fans?? You are making stuff up here, are you Bob Hunter
I'd give you the benefit of the doubt all day long here, if perhaps you would accept they need to come up with TV deals, fans, ref's etc before they take a place in Superleague?
So what's your vision for them? How would you "Harness them properly"??'"
Not making owt up. They are self financed, complied with the rules and worked their way up from L1....
Things take time to develop for the fans, refs etc. Cant just demand they suddenly be producing crops of players after 4 years. They increase our exposure to sponsorship and general visibility. SBW is a global superstar and they have brought him into RL. No othe SL club could have done that - its great for the profile of the sport. Not to mention they arent taking their Sky money so all other clubs get another 100kish
I think having them in the top tier is better for the game and will allow them to develop quicker.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Not making owt up. They are self financed, complied with the rules and worked their way up from L1....
Things take time to develop for the fans, refs etc. Cant just demand they suddenly be producing crops of players after 4 years. They increase our exposure to sponsorship and general visibility. SBW is a global superstar and they have brought him into RL. No othe SL club could have done that - its great for the profile of the sport. Not to mention they arent taking their Sky money so all other clubs get another 100kish
I think having them in the top tier is better for the game and will allow them to develop quicker.'"
No such thing as "their" Sky money, they are on the deal as agreed, so far all TWP have done is moan and want preferential treatment.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Not making owt up. They are self financed, complied with the rules and worked their way up from L1....
Things take time to develop for the fans, refs etc. Cant just demand they suddenly be producing crops of players after 4 years. They increase our exposure to sponsorship and general visibility. SBW is a global superstar and they have brought him into RL. No othe SL club could have done that - its great for the profile of the sport. Not to mention they arent taking their Sky money so all other clubs get another 100kish
I think having them in the top tier is better for the game and will allow them to develop quicker.'"
Whether having them in the "top tier" is better for the game remains to be seen, but it didn't do anything to help the Championship and L1 prosper. My prediction is that TWP will come bottom in SL this year. Maybe not because they have the worst team (players & coaches), but more that all the other SL clubs (maybe more the players tbh), will be motivated to beat them. This was how it was in L1 and then the Championship, but the other teams in those leagues didn't have the firepower to do it. It will be different in SL, especially given that TWP appear to have a paper-thin (numbers-wise) squad.
An interesting season ahead.
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| Quote ="HXSparky"Whether having them in the "top tier" is better for the game remains to be seen, but it didn't do anything to help the Championship and L1 prosper. My prediction is that TWP will come bottom in SL this year. Maybe not because they have the worst team (players & coaches), but more that all the other SL clubs (maybe more the players tbh), will be motivated to beat them. This was how it was in L1 and then the Championship, but the other teams in those leagues didn't have the firepower to do it. It will be different in SL, especially given that TWP appear to have a paper-thin (numbers-wise) squad.
An interesting season ahead.'"
I just feel sorry for the thous..... oh hang on, there wont be any travelling fans.
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| Quote ="HXSparky"Whether having them in the "top tier" is better for the game remains to be seen, but it didn't do anything to help the Championship and L1 prosper. My prediction is that TWP will come bottom in SL this year. Maybe not because they have the worst team (players & coaches), but more that all the other SL clubs (maybe more the players tbh), will be motivated to beat them. This was how it was in L1 and then the Championship, but the other teams in those leagues didn't have the firepower to do it. It will be different in SL, especially given that TWP appear to have a paper-thin (numbers-wise) squad.
An interesting season ahead.'"
Yeah I get it, I have them coming bottom too and I can get why they are ruffling feathers with how they are carrying on but this is an opportunity the game needs to take advantage of, especially with the Sky deal running down.
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| Quote ="HXSparky" It will be different in SL, especially given that TWP appear to have a paper-thin (numbers-wise) squad.
'" I know of at two guys with NRL experience who have knocked back chances to join a NSW cup squad this year because their managers still think they have a chance at a TWP contract.
I've heard that TWP only have 23 players and need a minimum of 30 just to be sure of being able to put a team on the field every week.
They expect to be able to sign the players they need.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"
1. Not making owt up. They increase our exposure to sponsorship and general visibility.
2. They aren't taking their Sky money so all other clubs get another 100kish
3. Things take time to develop for the fans, refs etc. Cant just demand they suddenly be producing crops of players after 4 years.
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1. Do they? Please tell me which big sponsors have now come on board with Superleague since TWP's entry and tell me the contract values?
2. Then why not remove more English clubs for North American ones so those left get even MORE money??
3. Utterly wrong....Perez NEVER said they'd use the long game developing juniors, he said they would convert grid iron players to Pro-RL players pretty quickly. PLUS McDermott confirmed recently TWP were not starting any sort of Junior game in Toronto.
Over to you....
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| Quote ="IR80"I just feel sorry for the thous..... oh hang on, there wont be any travelling fans.'"
I believe that Toronto are targeting certain away games and marketing trips accordingly. They have back to back away games at Wakefield and Huddersfield as one package and they are also looking at a package for the Hull FC away game to include a trip to the Challenge Cup final the weekend before.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I believe that Toronto are targeting certain away games and marketing trips accordingly. They have back to back away games at Wakefield and Huddersfield as one package and they are also looking at a package for the Hull FC away game to include a trip to the Challenge Cup final the weekend before.'"
Sounds sensible, the reality is a trip to Toronto is attractive to RL fans from the UK, but the reverse trip isn't quite comparable.
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| Quote ="IR80"Sounds sensible, the reality is a trip to Toronto is attractive to RL fans from the UK, but the reverse trip isn't quite comparable.'"
If you’ve got a week there are some decent options. Bit of Bronte Country, a trip to York, the Dales, Liverpool the home of the Beatles... we take this stuff for granted because it is familiar. Places like London and Edinburgh are in fairly easy reach too, especially by Canadian standards. If you’re Canadian, it’ll be foreign, exotic and that bit more interesting.
I’ve considered going over to Toronto, but tbh i’d have to do a bit of research to come up with a varied itinerary.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Pity they don't generate TV deals.
Pity they don't generate players.
Why is it "fair" they are in Superleague when all they generate is a massive debt
You'll go to any extreme to justify this fake club
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Not good for TV.
Not producing SL players
Generating debt.
Sounds like a standard SL club to me. Just one with bigger crowds and a higher profile.
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| Quote ="Him"Not good for TV.
Not producing SL players
Generating debt.
Sounds like a standard SL club to me. Just one with bigger crowds and a higher profile.'"
Well said
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