Biggest games of the season and yet again a lot of empty seats. 12,309 at Saints, 6k below capacity.13k at Wigan, half full.

Seemed a good turnout from both away teams, and you can use Thursday night as a factor for Saints but not for Wigan who choose to play Fridays anyway.

Whats RL got to do to change the culture of people not paying for games outside of season tickets? These games should be near sellouts.

Games which are not included in season tickets, both cup and play offs have been struggling for a long time. After 8 years of our current government we have seen living standards constantly falling, people no longer have as much disposable income and have had to make sacrifices. Yet from next season the play offs have been expanded to contain 5 teams and run for 4 weeks. Bad decision.

Both games have been poor compared to previous playoffs and play offs have been poor quility for a few years now, all thought both last years semis bucked the trend. Too many games same sides playing each other 4-5 times a season = boredom lack of interest. And the powers that be think loop fixtures next season will fix all this. Well they are in for a shock.

The game full stop is a poor game at the minute, its all about which side can either slow/wrestle the ruck or who can milk the most penalties at the ruck. It was good to see the ref last night shout to players “just get on with it” after a swan dive, but more often than not that would normally be a penalty.

Make the product on the pitch better then more people will be willing to part with £20 odd to watch it.

That's the crux of the issue, the game is boring and unless folk can get it for £10-£15 a game via a season ticket they won't bother.

Even Cas who are thought of as an entertaining team resort to 5 robotic drives and a kick, i've sat through countless games this year bored out of my brain and would have loved to have got up and left if work allowed me to do that !

Not many tickets look to have been sold for the England v New Zealand tests either with 3 weeks until that kicks off.

just shows how sloppy the game has got as when Liam Farrell couldn't even link in to form part of the scrum, at this moment it frustrates the hell out of me watching it

RL fans are just cheap.

Professional rugby league in this country is a poor product end of.

The people who run superleague clubs should be addressing.

This.

Will we have to make every semi final now a double header to make the attendances look more respectable?

Really, the Saints v Wire game was excellent.
Full of drama, skill, passion and as close as a RL game gets.

Last night was far less entertaining or dramatic.
Wigan have perfected (and been allowed to slow down the ptb, literally, stifling the opposition, although their defence was top drawer.
However, I agree regarding loop fixtures and we should have increased the comp to 14 clubs for next season and ensured that Toronto, London and Toulouse were all in the top flight but, chance missed.

We could do with William Eve on here to tell us about the crowds though.
There were empty seats at both grounds but neither looked to be "bad" attendances ?

He still posts from time to time, Parkside Freddie now i believe.

5.30am here so excuse typos...
We need to do 2 things.
1. Market the game......... I mean absolutely whore ourselves and throw it out there.
2. Get more kids playing it..... My boy is 4 and has been at rugby (Union). For a year already......

Even Rugby League fans in Canada are cheap with the Wolfpack relying on 50% of the ground on free tickets and god knows how many more in on the cheap!

Only 2 clubs in SL increased their attendance this season. St Helens were one. Hull F.C. wasn’t the other one

Regards

King James

Catalans crowds gone down and they are the great beacon of expansion in super league!

Regards

King EastHullUTR

And they're not mugs. The product isn't good enough so they're not buying it.

There is so much sport on TV now ,it is difficult to persuade people to leave the house to watch a sporting event of any kind.I know people who are constantly talking about the sports that they have seen on TV ,it isn't a lack of interest that stops people from attending sporting fixtures .It is so much easier to switch on the TV or go to the local pub and watch Sky sports for the price of a pint.

What is this fascination with fans paying money.

Clubs get their income from a lot of sources.

Sponsorship and tv is the main one.

If a club has enough turnover whether it is fans coming through the turnstiles with cash or sponsorship or tv or drunk fans buying shirts and hotdogs who cares,

If they have the money to pay the players and run the club it does not matter

kind of selfish that, take your own club when the plug gets pulled by Ken Davey the Gaints won't be able to exist

Not selfish at all. I know when Davy goes the Giants go.

That’s is the nature of business.

The bigger issue here is that RL as a professional sport in the UK is at risk

All you hear is that RL is dying it will cease to exist in a decade if sky pulls the plug we’re doomed etc but the fact is RL has been around for over a century it will always exist clubs will go bust and rise again (as in all sports) there will be money in the game and there will be times when the game struggles the obsession with fans paying is pointless what would you rather see 10,000 fans paying a tenner or 5000 paying 20 its the same outcome just one has a better atmosphere and did anyone expect Toronto not to give out free tickets its a new sport they have to entice fans somehow every club does it to a certain extent

Our season pass sales were up, we then played a summer of dead rubber games including 11 defeats, no marketing team can polish a turd.

Not sure exactly but I suspect without the derby game the average would drop below 11k

Hudds apparently did well with their free ticket entry to Catalans, and that game was one of the biggest turds you could ever see.

Huddersfield have resorted to dirt cheap season tickets £139 to try and attract a few fans to games in 2019.