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| England (a side who havent won any silverware since Jesus was at primary school) travel to the southern hemisphere to play the worlds #1 and #2 ranked sides...plus a decent looking Samoan outfit... and finish third on the ladder.
Why are you so surprised you came third?!
Reading some of the topics on here it seems like some of you thought England might actually make the final.
WHY??!!!
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| Not even slightly subtle.
Very very poor.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Not even slightly subtle.
Very very poor.'"
Assuming you are an England fan tell me why you thought you would make the final?
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| Quote ="Kiwi Shane"Assuming you are an England fan tell me why you thought you would make the final?'"
If it wasn't for an extremely dodgy video ref decision, England would've made the final.
How hard is that to understand? Even for someone from a 2nd world country like New Zealand.
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| Quote ="Kiwi Shane"Assuming you are an England fan tell me why you thought you would make the final?'"
We all hoped we might make the final, I don't think anyone expected to. That said there is absolutely nothing between England and NZ. You won't find two better matched sides anywhere.
I think you'll find most people are happy that we were competitive and are showing signs of progress.
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| Well we could have drawn with you if we'd wanted with that penalty at the end.
Plus we basically beat Australia.
So undefeated with five points morally.
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| The OP looks to be shiite stirring, but is right.
England at RL and RU for that matter involves 20/30 mins of adventure and creativity followed by 50/60 mins of holding on.
Which shows a lack of fitness, ability and mental toughness in some or other proportion.
'What we could have done' is the England way.
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| Quote ="declaration"Well we could have drawn with you if we'd wanted with that penalty at the end.'"
Coulda, shoulda, woulda!........
Quote ="declaration"Plus we basically beat Australia.'"
Nope....I've scanned the press and media sites of the globe and they all still have Australia as having won that game.
Quote ="declaration"So undefeated with five points morally.'"
Actually......on a plane home with the receipt for a new door!
England played 3, won 1. Anything else is just opinion.....
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
Actually......on a plane home with the receipt for a new door!
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He better find himself a bar job to pay for it as I doubt he will ever get a first grade NRL game with the Faders
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| Quote ="Kiwi Shane"He better find himself a bar job to pay for it as I doubt he will ever get a first grade NRL game with the Faders'"
Fortunately for him I highly doubt he's on a pay as you play deal.
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| Personally I went into the tournament expecting an easy win against Samoa, a complete hiding from the Aussies and salt in the wounds and another beating from the Kiwis, I have been very pleasantly suprised and enjoyed the tournament immensly and I hope the Final lives up to expectation.
I thought two England performances were good (Not sure about the Samoa game, either we were under par or they were better than expected).
Against Oz', we had two crucial chances to win the game, with breaks of 3 against 2, sadly on both occasions the ball carrier held on for too long. If just once the ball had been passed wide the game would've been won and thats without any "fingertip-gate" discussion, which to me is irrelivent, the ref said NO, end of!.
Against the Kiwis, if Ryan Hall doesn't lose his grip, we win, sadly he did, so we lose.
It's been ages since I last felt we were about to win, well ages against Oz', only last year against the Kiwis to be fair, but I'm sure you all know what I mean. The only dissapointment is that Samoa will be replaced by Scotland next time, surely there should be a play-off or something?
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| If anyone should know what it takes to get a bar job, it's a Kiwi.
Call me, when you get the telephone over there in Mordor.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Call me, when you get the telephone over there in Mordor.'"
The view from my office window...
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....although still looking for a UK city in [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/propertypicturegalleries/9477990/The-worlds-10-best-cities-to-live-in.html?frame=2311071THIS LIST[/url...let alone a northern UK city
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| Vienna, ok, Helsinki ....check...the rest??? wtf are they doing in a list of nice places to live, lmao!
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"Vienna, ok, Helsinki ....check...the rest??? wtf are they doing in a list of nice places to live, lmao!'"
It's about quality of life.......[url=http://www.vogue.com/slideshow/1447757/perfect-day-wellington-new-zealand-guide/and being in vogue[/url
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| Steady on your starting to sound like an arrogant Aussie. Best wait u til you win the final before starting the gloating lol.
This has been the closest and best tournament for a long time. Sit back and enjoy a cracking final.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Steady on your starting to sound like an arrogant Aussie. Best wait u til you win the final before starting the gloating lol.
This has been the closest and best tournament for a long time. Sit back and enjoy a cracking final.'"
I actually think the Aussies will fancy their chances this weekend. They are slight favourites with the bookies 1.75 as opposed to 2.05 for the Kiwis and if I'm honest, I've been pretty unimpressed with the Kiwis in the last 2 games and the weathers looking like a bit of a leveler too!
Still...it's International Rugby League and it's on in my home town! Bring it on....
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| Quote ="Kiwi Shane"England (a side who havent won any silverware since Jesus was at primary school) travel to the southern hemisphere to play the worlds #1 and #2 ranked sides...plus a decent looking Samoan outfit... and finish third on the ladder.
Why are you so surprised you came third?!
Reading some of the topics on here it seems like some of you thought England might actually make the final.
WHY??!!!
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I don't think anyone's surprised we came 3rd, we usually do! Aren't you a little embarrassed that you only beat a side that haven't won anything since Jesus was in primary school by 2 points, seeing as you Kiwi's are so great and all that?
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| Pommie's the worst insult for a nation of people ever. Nobody even knows wtf it means or cares when we're called it.
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| Quote ="Kiwi Shane"Assuming you are an England fan tell me why you thought you would make the final?'"
Because NZ are overrated and Australia had there second team out
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| New Zealand
It's Australian for Scotland
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| Here I was thinking NZers were a step up on Aussies on this kind of thing. Seems 4 wins in 20 against them has elevated you to their level of arrogance now.
I think very few of us expected to make the final but we had a good young side capable of making it and after last years WC semi-final performance we knew we weren't far off (SBW negating Sam's departure).
On reflection, it was very frustrating to be denied a try where our players hand is on the ball while the ball is on the ground. The explanation of the decision (the ball was rising) only fueled that frustration as it's completely illegitimate. We should have drawn that game (and possibly won with Widdop's kicking that day).
Against NZ we went within 2 and again, due to the dynamics of the points differential, which Gutters seems to have dismissed, (likely) would have drawn by taking the penalty goal at the end.
And we beat Samoa by more than NZ in tough conditions.
All in all a positive but ultimately unsuccessful tournament that would leave anyone a little bitter.
Still, enjoy your final.
The original post is childish and doesn't seem to acknowledge any of the games we played in its reasoning.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Pommie's the worst insult for a nation of people ever. Nobody even knows wtf it means or cares when we're called it.'"
'Pommie' isn't really meant as an insult. Having been to Australia and NZ, it's just a nickname our cousins from Down Under give to the English.
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| Quote ="Il Fanatico"Here I was thinking NZers were a step up on Aussies on this kind of thing.'"
Translated......f*** off and stop rubbing it in
Quote ="Il Fanatico"Seems 4 wins in 20 against them has elevated you to their level of arrogance now.'"
2 Major finals in there......just in case you forgot
Quote ="Il Fanatico"I think very few of us expected to make the final but we had a good young side capable of making it and after last years WC semi-final performance we knew we weren't far off (SBW negating Sam's departure).'"
More than a "few" expected an England final appearance......but it's just that so many failures has helped you hone the art of trying to look "not bothered" when you're actually seething
Quote ="Il Fanatico"On reflection, it was very frustrating to be denied a try where our players hand is on the ball while the ball is on the ground. The explanation of the decision (the ball was rising) only fueled that frustration as it's completely illegitimate. We should have drawn that game (and possibly won with Widdop's kicking that day).'"
if only....what if.....it's not fair!.................
Quote ="Il Fanatico"Against NZ we went within 2 and again, due to the dynamics of the points differential, which Gutters seems to have dismissed, (likely) would have drawn by taking the penalty goal at the end.'"
Take the two then. Oh, hang on, you dominated the aussies in the first half and if instead of f****ing it up in the second, you'd pressed on, then 2 would have done it for you.....as it was, you imploded the week before an therefore had to go for the power-play and the win.
Quote ="Il Fanatico"And we beat Samoa by more than NZ in tough conditions.'"
And Australia dealt with the Samoans better than both England and NZ.....so what?
Quote ="Il Fanatico"All in all a positive but ultimately unsuccessful tournament'"
yep.....progress has been made, but until you win next years series against the Kiwis, I'd "temper" the talk of RLWC glory etc.
Quote ="Il Fanatico"that would leave anyone a little bitter.'"
Except you......who is obviously very bitter
Quote ="Il Fanatico"Still, enjoy your final.'"
Will thanks. I think the AussIes will win BTW......they have got better as the tournament has gone on whilst the Kiwis have been awful.
Quote ="Il Fanatico"The original post is childish and doesn't seem to acknowledge any of the games we played in its reasoning.'"
Well, I do believe he was fishing. Careful taking that hook out now....
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| As ive said before I couldn't care less about international rugby league and it seems the Aussies couldn't either and yet they will still win the thing without even trying
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