|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 37 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2015 | Jul 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Looks like george is tearing up the NRL rave reveiws have earned him a place on the shortlist for rookie of the year
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 29815 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Really looking forward to watching him in the World Cup (as long as McBanana doesn't play JJB at prop). It's feels a bit like going to watch an NRL star in the Aussie or NZ side for the first time live yet he's English.
Weird situation but really exciting for the England team.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Administrator | 21173 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 1999 | 26 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Administrator
|
| Where have you been all year?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 37 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2015 | Jul 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Well heard he was doing well but little suprised how highly rated he is down under
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 322 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2017 | Apr 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 929 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2018 | Sep 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Talking about the build up to last years Grand Final in Oz he said
"It was awesome. I loved the atmosphere and hype behind the team. It's totally different to what I am used to coming from, northern England where the game is not big or anything."
How on Earth are our governing body still in a job? No wonder everybody is packing their bag and filling in their visa applications as soon as they can.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 126 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2023 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Not surprised by this. For any one who hasn't watched much NRL this year and you would like a quick picture painted of how good he is, picture Jamie Peacock this year playing for Leeds and then times it by factor of about 6. That is how good he has been.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 6848 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2012 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Jul 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="ISpeaksProperEnglish"Not surprised by this. For any one who hasn't watched much NRL this year and you would like a quick picture painted of how good he is, picture Jamie Peacock this year playing for Leeds and then times it by factor of about 6. That is how good he has been.'"
Both play the same position yes, but Different players completely.One brings 60-70 minutes of non stop in your face biff, the other is an awesome impact player.
Both have had outstanding seasons, but less of the NRL love in please its a bit of an insult to JP to say any forward in the world has been 6x better than him this year.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 126 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2023 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Both play the same position yes, but Different players completely.One brings 60-70 minutes of non stop in your face biff, the other is an awesome impact player.
Both have had outstanding seasons, but less of the NRL love in please its a bit of an insult to JP to say any forward in the world has been 6x better than him this year.'"
No its not. And for those who don't watch NRL, how else would you describe the impact/his performances this year? JP has been the best prop this year in SL without a doubt and for me should be MoS. Would I have George over JP atm yes within a heart beat.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 29815 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Of course people would have Burgess over Peacock mainly due to the fact he's 15 years younger but to say he's 6 times the player Peacock is or his form has been 6 times better is laughable. He's been immense, there's no question but we need to stop this disrespect we show our own competition and the ar*e kissing we keep giving the NRL.
If George Burgess ends up anywhere near as good as Peacock he'll have had a great career. One season doesn't make you a legend. I'm sure he knows that anyway.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 6848 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2012 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Jul 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="ISpeaksProperEnglish"No its not. And for those who don't watch NRL, how else would you describe the impact/his performances this year? JP has been the best prop this year in SL without a doubt and for me should be MoS. Would I have George over JP atm yes within a heart beat.'"
Like i say, two different styles of prop.I watch a lot of NRL like im sure many do on here and have been astounded by some of George's early games and what he brings to the table as an impact player.But Phil Gould did his best 13 of the year the other day and George didnt make that side as one of the props and he probably wont make the NRL team of the year.Thats not to say he hasnt been great but he still isn't the finished article, which is scary in itself!
As a Leeds fan, no i wouldnt have had George over JP this year.he wouldn't have been able to carry our pack in the way JP has had to game after game.
That said, really looking forward to seeing George and Sam play for us in the WC, and hope they can carry their club form through into the tournament.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2862 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2017 | Dec 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Lets hope all the burgess brothers play and lets hope we win the world cup please
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 322 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2017 | Apr 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Like i say, two different styles of prop.I watch a lot of NRL like im sure many do on here and have been astounded by some of George's early games and what he brings to the table as an impact player.But Phil Gould did his best 13 of the year the other day and George didnt make that side as one of the props and he probably wont make the NRL team of the year.Thats not to say he hasnt been great but he still isn't the finished article, which is scary in itself!
As a Leeds fan, no i wouldnt have had George over JP this year.he wouldn't have been able to carry our pack in the way JP has had to game after game.
That said, really looking forward to seeing George and Sam play for us in the WC, and hope they can carry their club form through into the tournament.'"
His stats suggest he is a lot more than an impact player.Averaging 46 minutes a game and the work he puts in both in defence and offence during those minutes back that up.
According to Fox Sports Statistics, the hulking forward crams an unfathomable amount of work into the 46 minutes he plays each week - averaging a whopping 140 metres and 26 tackles per game. Elsewhere, George has also busted 95 tackles, made eight linebreaks and scored seven tries.
JP averages 156 metres and 33 tackles per game.47 Busted Tackles ,Line Breaks 3 and scored 3 tries.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1899 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2012 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Get big George on the bench, wind him up and watch him go!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2490 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Get big George on the bench, wind him up and watch him go!'"
I would have all four brothers & James Graham in the England squad ahead of any in super league & I am not a beliver that all thing australian are better just that three of those have been up in the top players from the start of the season Luke has come back from injury & played his way into the starting line up at the back end of the season & Tom has forced his way into the Souths side as well, add to them Widdop & the ginger from the Broncos we have the start of a good side.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 322 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2017 | Apr 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The Key to greatness is Longevity in the game and on that score JP is one of the all time greats.Being disrespectful to him to suggest that George is 6 times the player.If his stats are still holding up and if he is even still on the park when he is 35 then he will have done extremely well and maybe then you can hold a realistic comparison.
On this seasons stats they are very similar players although JP does get a lot more game time.Some of that will be due to the strength of the Bunnies forward interchanges.Why burn a young player out when you have quality interchanges.
JP is coming towards the end of his amazing career and i am sure he wants to spend as much time as he can in every game on the field before he hangs up his boots.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 322 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2017 | Apr 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Beverley red"I would have all four brothers & James Graham in the England squad ahead of any in super league & I am not a beliver that all thing australian are better just that three of those have been up in the top players from the start of the season Luke has come back from injury & played his way into the starting line up at the back end of the season & Tom has forced his way into the Souths side as well, add to them Widdop & the ginger from the Broncos we have the start of a good side.'"
By the Ginger one i take it you mean Jack Reed.He is out of the World Cup with a dislocated shoulder i believe.
Can see Sam,George and Luke making the squad.Not sure on Tom as he has only had a handful of interchange games at the top level.Throw James Graham into the mix and you have the makings of a forward pack that will stack up to anything the Aussies can put together.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1899 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2012 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Beverley red"I would have all four brothers & James Graham in the England squad ahead of any in super league & I am not a beliver that all thing australian are better just that three of those have been up in the top players from the start of the season Luke has come back from injury & played his way into the starting line up at the back end of the season & Tom has forced his way into the Souths side as well, add to them Widdop & the ginger from the Broncos we have the start of a good side.'"
Never been a fan of Luke, don't think he would add more than Hill or Crabtree. Graham is a shoe in, I'd start Hill alongside him. With George and Tom/Crabtree off the bench. Add in Westwood, Ellis and Sam Burgess and that is a monster pack!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2666 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2017 | Nov 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Can Jamie Peacock not be tempted out of retirement for one last shot at winning the World Cup on home soil? Do we need him? He's been sensational recently, but with Sam Burgess, George Burgess, James Graham, Earl Crabtree and Chris Hill is he needed?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 21171 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Burgess v Peacock as a comparison is as much a mismatch as Burgess v Sinfield or Brough.
may as well be different positions, certainly different skills.
You might prefer one to the other but each is very good at what they do.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 707 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| George is certainly a monster - that YouTube video highlights that you give him the ball within 10 metres of the line, odds are he's going over (and carrying a number of defenders with him). Forwards are set to compete with the Aussies and Kiwis - although we certainly aren't going to dominate there (like we always think we will). They are more than able to handle our pack.
The issue is (and why I fear we'll feel let down come WC knock out stages) that we can't compete with the power, pace and accuracy of their backs. We're getting better e.g. Watkins, Hall.... but the level is still too far off the regular NRL star backline players. Sorry, that's the truth.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1519 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| George and Sam are shoe-ins for the England first 17, along with Graham but the other 2 are only fringe players at the moment in my opinion. Never seen Luke as much more than an average SL prop and have seen nothing more this season to change my mind. Tom doesn't quite seem to have the same impact as George at the moment but I am sure he is capable.
Interesting stat that keeps arising on George is that as well as his tries, more tries have been scored directly after he has played the ball than any other player - highlighting the impact he has when running the ball.
The comparison with Peacock is just silly - all the Burgesses could still learn a lot from Jamie and I'd have him in the 17 if he made himself available.
As for the reason we struggle vs the Aussies is mainly the big game players the Aussies have who are used to producing game defining moments in tight, intense games. Its mainly the halves that is the massive difference, in recent past, we can't compete with the game management of players like Lockyer, Thurston, Smith, Slater etc even though we can match them down the middle.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 29815 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Tom Burgess hasn't been selected for Souths this weekend so any talk of all 4 being in with a chance of the England squad would seem wide of the mark. How do we judge Luke? He's been injured for quite a bit if his time over there and wasn't anything special here.
Sam and George are shoe ins.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 6848 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2012 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Jul 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="NickyKiss"Tom Burgess hasn't been selected for Souths this weekend so any talk of all 4 being in with a chance of the England squad would seem wide of the mark. How do we judge Luke? He's been injured for quite a bit if his time over there and wasn't anything special here.
Sam and George are shoe ins.'"
I would agree with this.Luke is a good prop, more than capable of holding his own in the NRL as he has proved.Is he a better option than the likes of Hill,Crabtree,Mossop etc.. who he would be competing with as one of the fringe props in the squad? We are clearly very strong in the front row department.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 4809 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2016 | Nov 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Jimmy85"Talking about the build up to last years Grand Final in Oz he said
"It was awesome. I loved the atmosphere and hype behind the team. It's totally different to what I am used to coming from, northern England where the game is not big or anything."
How on Earth are our governing body still in a job? No wonder everybody is packing their bag and filling in their visa applications as soon as they can.'"
It's the biggest sport in (that bit) of Australia. Of course it's going to be as big an event, and everything attached to that, and much bigger than the equivalent here.
|
|
|
|
|