Anyone know how they're going?

It's a shambles Jonny. I've no idea what the answer is by the way but I know it will be a shambles. I'll find last years' thread and just cut and paste the guff from it into here.

Only 5000 will turn up same as every year, oh hang on....

Ha Ha!

Cheers for the straight answers!

wire are 2-3 thou down on what we sold in 2010, though a lot of people have gone straight to the RFL to get tickets as they didn't want to fart about or get shat on with the pre order gig that warrington were doing.

Let's hope Leeds take more than they did last year. I doubt it though.

Put it this way, we'll be taking more than Wigan will be this year.

Leeds only have 500 left from their allocation and plenty have bought direct from the RFL. Over 60,000 sold overall up to press. Should be a great atmosphere again and despite a couple of isolated incidents the last time we played Wire there is a great deal of respect between the clubs and their supporters. There's no doubt we'll all have a chuckle about the Wigan supporters sat at home eating their HUMBLE pies while we're all having a jolly in the capital.

So Leeds fans think they might win this year then?

Mine have arrived. Got to decide who to support now.

It was 62k as of the end of last week, could be a really poor one crowd wise unfortunately.

I cannot understand it.

This annual soulsearch has to be both the most pointless and most irritating thread.

I'm not even watching the final this year. Playing in the Division 2 Britbowl for Sheffield on Saturday instead. If it sounds like it was a good match, I'll watch it on Sky+ when I get home.

dont forget to go to Fridays game at the skolars versus whitehaven plus the real ale festival is on again!

Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"d040.gif This annual soulsearch has to be both the most pointless and most irritating thread.'" WTF are you on about? Someone asked the figures sold and so I told them. To back the case up you only have to look at some of the desperate articles printed in local press such as www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/new ... ner_Moran/ I mean come on. Translation = get off your backsides

Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"d040.gif This annual soulsearch has to be both the most pointless and most irritating thread.'" WTF are you on about? Someone asked the figures sold and so I told them. To back the case up you only have to look at some of the desperate articles printed in local press such as www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/new ... ner_Moran/ I mean come on. Translation = get off your backsides

Which if you'd stuck to that would be fine. Did I comment on that? Er, no. Did I in fact comment on your doomsayer forecast that:
" [icould be a really poor one crowd wise unfortunately[/i"

Er, yes. WTF I'm on about is doomsayers like you predicting a dire attendance at the CCF when as in all previous years, it'll be fine. And whether it is or it isn't ...
"[iI mean come on. Translation = get off your backsides[/i"
... chiding people to attempt to force numbers up out of a sense of shame or duty is as embarrassing as it is pointless. Not a single paying speccy ever changed their mind to go to a match as a result of a jolly good ticking off.

I haven't a clue what you're referring to as far as doom mongers or regular naysayers go because I simply don't read it half the time, especially when it comes to cup crowds.
Simply put, for two traditionally well supported clubs, barring a late mad rush it simply will be a poor poor crowd this year. period. It doesn't bother me in the slightest, nor will I complain about it, I was just stating what will almost certainly be a fact.

Some people are realy touchy! It's like North Korea on here. Kim Jong Aardvark.

Maybe if enough people discuss poor attendances the people that run the game might sit up and have a look at the problem. They may decide to act, they may not. SL is the priority now. 20 years ago the final attracted 90,000's. Now it doesn't. Shoot us for asking why.

Well for a start Wembley's capacity is 90,000.
The last 90k+ crowd was 1988, the crowds since going back to Wembley are similar to those crowds after 1988.
There have only been 16 crowds of 90k+ in the history of the Challenge Cup, out of a total of 116 Finals (incl replays)
We now have a Grand Final that draws 60k+ each year, combined with a Cup Final that is generally around the 75k mark I don't think it's too much of an issue.

There is an issue when the sports "showpiece" is not a sell-out.

That's the crux of the matter. It is no longer the showpiece. It's not a major disaster but neither is it one that we should be afraid to discuss without being shouted down by the usual forum police.

Perhaps it is to the game's credit that there IS something else that is quickly growing into the showpiece. I also think that the death of the social club/pub scene has impacted general sales. We used to be part of "The Wheatsheaf's" annual sharabang to Wembley. The pub is no more and we've all moved on. Contrast this to RU where the social gathering at a match is just as important as the match itself. They're never left with unsold tickets for their friendlies, let alone their showpiece events.

But it's rarely sold-out in it's history. Of course I'd like it to be a sell-out but I just don't see it as a big deal, the far, far more important issue in my view is the relatively poor international attendances and the poor media profile we have.